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American Muslims Debate Loyalty to America
american thinker ^ | 8/14/10 | Eileen F. Toplansky

Posted on 08/15/2010 1:09:46 AM PDT by Nachum

American Muslims are debating key questions of loyalty to America, a debate in which the stakes could not be higher. Alarmingly, "no fewer than four United States citizens and a permanent U.S. resident have risen to senior leadership posts within al-Qaeda," according to an Investors Business Daily editorial by Paul Sperry. Thus, "five English-speaking leaders are actively planning or facilitating attacks against their countrymen, while recruiting and radicalizing other American turncoats to carry them out."

The implications of this are frightening. No longer is America at war with a foreign enemy. The enemy is here -- an enemy who understands how "America works, having lived here for decades." Thus, fellow Americans are recruited by the enemy. These traitors are "fed by a native Muslim population once believed [to be] ... nonthreatening." Is this an aberration, or does Islam condone and promote this disloyalty?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: american; americanjihadi; americanjihadis; americanmuslims; debate; globaljihad; jihad; loyalty; muslims

1 posted on 08/15/2010 1:09:52 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
No longer is America at war with a foreign enemy. The enemy is here . . . .

Duh! The enemy has been here for decades. They are called leftists democrats!!

2 posted on 08/15/2010 1:12:18 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Nachum

Get ready for the biggest insult of all - minarets over new york city.........brought to you by Obama & Co. - the culturally insensitive affirmative action bureaucrats elected by white guilt.


3 posted on 08/15/2010 1:15:45 AM PDT by x_plus_one (The third secret of Fatima is that Islam prevails and we are nuked by Russia.)
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To: Nachum

See tagline.


4 posted on 08/15/2010 1:21:43 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: All

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5 posted on 08/15/2010 1:35:33 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Nachum

Wow! What a bad mouthful to say “American Muslam.”

It is like saying the constitution was written to protect the rights of those those that purpose to destroy the constitution.

“Can a nation put fire to its breast, and not be burnt?”

“And he will be a wild man; and his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presnce of his brethern.” (Genesis 16:12)


6 posted on 08/15/2010 1:37:52 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonyous)
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To: Nachum

Islam as a global movement has already openly declared war on the US, but their domestic footsoldiers say they are just harmless pussycats, and are as American as apple pie. Repeat after me...

Barack Hussein Obama, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.


7 posted on 08/15/2010 1:40:05 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Nachum

A lot more Americans will have to die before the Left gets it.


8 posted on 08/15/2010 2:11:28 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Islander7

The Leftists see another possible voting block of ‘victims’. They have absorbed anyone who is Latino in to the victimhood and now want to enlist all the Muslims in to their anti-american army.


9 posted on 08/15/2010 2:26:11 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Nachum

Everyone had their undies in a knot when JFK was elected because they thought he would answer to the Pope before anything else. Now we have a Muzzie in the White Mosque and nobody pulls a hair.
Muzzies only answer to Allah. They will lie, cheat, kill and be killed if they feel that the bastard religion is being advanced. They have no loyality but for Islam.


10 posted on 08/15/2010 2:50:06 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Nachum

American Muslims,No such thing.


11 posted on 08/15/2010 3:44:44 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Nachum

bfl


12 posted on 08/15/2010 3:47:10 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." - Confucius)
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To: Nachum
On Friday Obama told the Muslims he had gathered in the PEOPLES house, along with the entire world which side he is really on in the war on terror = America or Islam. He made his choice and sided with ISLAM and told us all that he approves of the MUSLIM Mosque, that He DOES NOT OBJECT TO IT and that he wants it built at the site of Islam's victory over America.

HIS ADMINISTRATION, HIS STATE DEPARTMENT is spending OUR TAXPAYER MONEY TO SEND THE IMAM WHO IS HELL-BENT ON BUILDING THIS MONSTROSITY ALL OVER THE

I S L A M I C WORLD

TO RAISE MONEY TO BUILD THE MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO IN ORDER TO HUMILIATE ALL OF AMERICA!

The words Obama said on Friday in support of this abomination he agreed to and proclaimed before all of those assembled and before the entire world OF HIS OWN FREE WILL. For him to now be saying that he did not mean what he said is ridiculous

With his statement on Friday Obama BROKE FAITH WITH THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA! He once and for all told America and the World exactly which side he is on: He supports Islam and the enemies of the United States both at home and abroad. We have him speaking these words, on video. He can lie all he wants to and try to "backpedal" all he wants, but it is too late, he cannot undo what he has done;

Obama didn't just "spit it the eye of America;" he pulled down his pants in front of the entire country and world, squatted on the hallowed 9/11/01 Ground Zero site and took a huge PUBLIC DUMP UPON GROUND ZERO AND UPON ALL OF AMERICA! After he was done, he got up, pulled up his pants, smiled, his narcissistic smile at the camera and said: "This is where I stand regarding America, Islam and Ground Zero."

Obama is Satan's servant = totally anti-American, anti-Semitic and filled with the spirit of antichrist.

13 posted on 08/15/2010 3:51:55 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Nachum

“American Muslims Debate Loyalty to America”

Deport them all in the interest of national security. Fool us once (9-11): shame on you. Fool us twice: shame on us.


14 posted on 08/15/2010 3:59:20 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: LetMarch

There are no Muslim Americans, rather they are Muslims in America.

I’m old enough to remember when the Shah of Iran was overthrown. During the hostage crisis there was a domestic terror group calling itself “Islamic Guerillas in America”. CAIR is merely the current infestation.

Frankly, this old f@rt is fed up to here with Muslims. Here, they make demands. Elsewhere, they torture and kill. I say demand that every Muslim in America walk on a Saudi flag. If they refuse, boom! Out they go on the next roach coach to Beirut. Sick of them! Bloody savages!

):^(

“There is no upside to Islam”


15 posted on 08/15/2010 4:00:00 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: elcid1970

mooslim credo: I love you. I will kill you and your children. Boom! Slash!

This acted out daily world wide.


16 posted on 08/15/2010 4:19:10 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Nachum

Why wouldn’t America’s ‘moderate’ Muslims decide to side with Jihadists? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out which way the wind is blowing, and Obama’s devout Muslim faith becomes more apparent by the day. (Not to mention the fact that he hates America and is working as hard as he can to destroy us.) It’s Hitler and the Nazi’s all over again, and Muslims have put two and two together. If they’re not enthusiastic enough now about Islamification of the world by any and all means necessary, they know they’ll be ratted out by Jihadist spies in the local mosques with beheadings, etc., to follow.


17 posted on 08/15/2010 4:36:24 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Nachum

They debate their loyalty to America, while we let them build a mosque to celebrate their “victory” at Ground Zero.


18 posted on 08/15/2010 4:48:00 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: A_perfect_lady

The Left will never “get it”. They don’t want to. They didn’t get it when Soviet communism collapsed. They didn’t get it when China abandoned Marxism. They didn’t get it when foreign fanatics attacked this country and killed 3,000 people. They have their own agenda. Facts mean nothing to fanatics.


19 posted on 08/15/2010 4:50:55 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: x_plus_one
Get ready for the biggest insult of all - minarets over new york city.........brought to you by Obama & Co. - the culturally insensitive affirmative action bureaucrats elected by white guilt.

Don't forget Bloomberg.

20 posted on 08/15/2010 4:57:41 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Nachum

I’d reorder the words in the title to: “Americans debate Muslim’s loyalty to America”. Maybe that’s not necessary—the debate should be over. “By their fruits shall ye know them,” as it were.


21 posted on 08/15/2010 5:04:04 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: A_perfect_lady

No, when more Americans die the Leftists will demand more appeasement.


22 posted on 08/15/2010 5:10:49 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

Maybe. Remember that the Left has their pet victims. Leftists hate capitalism; some of my professors were visibly PLEASED on 9/11, watching those towers fall. But if terrorists took out a section of San Francisco? There would be a reaction. (I hope.)


23 posted on 08/15/2010 5:26:40 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Nachum
"Alarmingly, "no fewer than four United States citizens and a permanent U.S. resident have risen to senior leadership posts within al-Qaeda," "

Alarming?????????

The only thing alarming is that there aren't MORE of them.....
and I suspect there are.

24 posted on 08/15/2010 5:44:01 AM PDT by evad (SHUT IT DOWN!!!)
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To: x_plus_one

What goes up can come down.


25 posted on 08/15/2010 5:56:18 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: A_perfect_lady

Yes, there’d be a reaction. More free scholarships for Wahabist Muslims, grant money for more Mosques and a crackdown on anyone critical of Islam. Even Berkley professors would accept it as indicating they haven’t been “understanding” and “accepting” enough of Islam.


26 posted on 08/15/2010 12:29:48 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

You may be right. It’s hard to tell exactly what the victim hierarchy is for lefties, but so far it does kinda look like Muslims are at the top of their food chain.


27 posted on 08/15/2010 12:36:22 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Yep, I’m surprised that more of our Leftists aren’t bowing toward Mecca 5 times a day.


28 posted on 08/15/2010 12:49:40 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

You know, if I were the type to make nasty jokes, I’d be tempted to note that gays and muslims spend a fair amount of time in the same position.


29 posted on 08/15/2010 1:46:22 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Nachum

Islam: What the West Needs to Know” DVD
by Gregory M. Davis and Bryan Daly, producers
Since 9/11, numerous Western leaders have insisted that Islam is a peaceful religion, and that violence committed in its name contradicts the teachings of the Koran and the example of the prophet Muhammad. But is this true? Now, Islam: What the West Needs to Know, takes an unblinking look at the so-called “religion of peace” — and demonstrates that Islam is, in fact, a violent and expansionist religion that seeks the destruction or subjugation of other faiths, cultures, and systems of government.

Featuring interviews with noted Islam experts Robert Spencer, Serge Trifkovic, Bat Ye’or, Abdullah Al-Araby, and former terrorist Walid Shoebat, Islam: What the West Needs to Know examines the Koran, other Islamic texts, and the example of the prophet Muhammad to reveal that violence against non-Muslims is and has always been an integral aspect of Islam.

The Islam: What the West Needs to Know DVD reveals:

How warfare — even terrorism — in the name of Islam stems directly from the teachings and example of the Prophet Muhammad and the commands of the Koran

The truth about Muhammad: a warlord with the blood of thousands on his hands — and how Muslims are expected to follow his example, as Christians are to follow Christ

How the Koran — considered by Muslims to be dictated word for word by Allah — explicitly commands violence against non-Muslims who resist conversion or surrender

“Jihad”: an “inner struggle” over temptation, as some Muslim apologists claim? Not so: how the Koran makes it clear it denotes warfare against non-Muslims in order to bring about the universal rule of Islamic law

How violent death in jihad is, according to the Koran, the only assurance of salvation

How, following Muhammad’s death, his ‘rightly-guided’ successors carried his wars to three continents — fighting, enslaving, and massacring countless Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, and others

How Islam, unlike Christianity, flourished and spread primarily through conquest, not peaceful evangelism

How the Crusades, mischaracterized as a violent assault on peaceful Muslims, were largely a belated response against centuries of Muslim conquest of Christian lands

The Islamic principle of ‘religious deception’ — which enjoins Muslims to deceive non-Muslims to advance the cause of Islam – and how Muslim groups use it today

How, throughout its history, Islam has never recognized a distinction between religious and civil authority

How Islamic “sharia” law governs every aspect of religious, political, and personal life — amounting to a form of totalitarianism analogous to Communism


30 posted on 08/15/2010 2:21:05 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: A_perfect_lady

Yep, and one of those groups does it 5 times a day.


31 posted on 08/16/2010 2:51:40 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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