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Why don't Americans like Muslims?
Asia Times Online ^ | 17 Aug 2010 | Spengler

Posted on 08/16/2010 5:55:43 AM PDT by Palter

Popular antipathy to a proposed Islamic center near Ground Zero is so fierce that even President Barack Obama, the nation's Islamophile-in-chief, "clarified" his August 11 statement supporting the plan to say, "I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there." It is not just a mosque, of which there are two in the neighborhood, but a symbol of Islamic presence. The most recent CNN poll shows an overwhelming 70%-29% margin of opposition.

When liberal politicians - like the president and New York's Mayor Michael Bloomberg - defend the plan, what they mean is, "We want a big Islamic statement near Ground Zero as a gesture of outreach to the Muslim world." When the political right denounces it, they mean, "Muslim conquerors always build a mosque atop the ruins of the places they conquer, and we're not going to give the rascals the satisfaction." That was predictable.

What is surprising is how passionately Americans oppose the Ground Zero mosque. A revolt is brewing against America's liberal political elite.

It is hard to find consistent polling data about American attitudes towards Islam. The largest polling organizations, Pew and Gallup, draw funding from organizations with a vested interest in promoting a benign view of Islam. Nonetheless, the results are striking: in a Gallup inquiry [1] published in January 2010, Americans had an "unfavorable" view of Islam by a margin of 53%-42%, with 31% holding a strongly negative view. That contrasts with 15% for Judaism and 4% for Christianity.

Similar results emerge from polls of respective support for Israel and the Palestinians.

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; msm4obama911mosque; msm4victorymosque; muslim; obama4islam; rop; spengler; wot
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To: mewzilla

“Why don’t Americans like Muslims Islamists?

I wonder why that question wasn’t posed...? “

Because there is no difference?

Presidente Jorgew Boosh gave us that deliberately deceptive “Islam is a religion of Peace” line because the Saudi’s bought him.

Read “House of Saud, House of Bush” and then ask yourself how much influence 1.476 billion bucks buys amongst American politicians.


121 posted on 08/16/2010 7:29:17 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: llandres

Obama is at conflict within himself. A true Muslim would never espouse that he is a Christian. He could never be a true believer and openly say he is other than a follower of the Prophet. No, I believe he is a hybrid. Just as Reverend Wright is.


122 posted on 08/16/2010 7:30:21 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Palter

Perhaps it is because a major tenet of their faith is instruction to lie and deceive the people of any society in which they are the minority as to their true intention to change them into Muslims through jihad. How do you deal with people or trust the words of their “moderates” whose religion instructs them to deceive?

Perhaps it is because polls in Muslim countries say that they don’t like us.

Perhaps it is because a major tenet of their faith is jihad which continues to be interpreted by them as a mandate for ‘struggle’ against other religions. Despite all their protestations that jihad is peaceful, I’ve been unable to find a single instance in history where a society or country has turned Muslim simply by virtue of peaceful missionary work.

Pehaps it is because a major tenet of Muslim faith is to subjugate practitioners of other religions who come under their control into a form of second class citizenship called dhimmitude. Or to die if they don’t accept that second class citizenship. In other words, you lose to our jihad, you’re lucky we let you live.

Perhaps it is because so many of the Muslims pracice a form of religion in which women are treated like dogs.

Perhaps it is because they don’t like dogs. Can you trust anyone who doessn’t like man’s best friend?


123 posted on 08/16/2010 7:31:03 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Maybe there are some moderates, but they are either mute or media will not put them on. Either way the perception becomes tacit approval of the extremists’ tactics.


124 posted on 08/16/2010 7:32:03 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Red in Blue PA

How about that photo of the girl with the hacked off nose.


125 posted on 08/16/2010 7:33:46 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: padre35

“Americans however, and the majority of Muslims in the US do not align themselves with cut throat terrorists.”

Do at least consider revising the above line of yours. Muslims must adhere to the Koran or be considered “apostate” and therefore subject to killing by other Muslims.

I suspect you have made the common error of confusing the American, Judeo-Christian based right to worship as you see fit with Islam. That is an error. There is NO variation allowed in Islam.

Look it up.


126 posted on 08/16/2010 7:42:23 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Charles Martel
Have you seen this...Three things about Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

It's a must watch. Sorry I couldn't link it.

127 posted on 08/16/2010 8:02:03 AM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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To: GladesGuru
Not necessarily, there are different schools of Imams, fundamentalist and modernist, the Sufi Modernist Imams are not the ones to support the literal interpretation of “spread Islam by the fire and the sword” or “don't take Christians or Jews for friends”.

Fundamentalist Islam is utterly opposed to any sense of Eccumenicalsim..look up Sufi Schools of Islamic Thought..Imam Ghuzali..one is conflating them with Salafistic lines of thought.

128 posted on 08/16/2010 8:22:23 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Palter
The real question should be, "What good reasons are there for Americans to like Muslims"?".

Ask that and there won't be much discussion, just dead air (apart from a few politically correct fools and the usual America hating subversives).

129 posted on 08/16/2010 8:27:11 AM PDT by Gritty (The Ft Hood massacre wasn't intelligence failure. It was leadership, ethical failure-Ralph Peters)
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To: ScottinVA
Here's another article, in which a Danish psychologist explains how his exposure to Muslims led him to the conclusion that having been raised in a Muslim environment – with Muslim parents and traditions – includes the risk of developing certain antisocial patterns, i.e. antisocial as defined in Western culture.
130 posted on 08/16/2010 8:43:43 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: meyer
I also remember the news-bimbo on CNN exclaiming what a coincidence it was when the second plane hit the other tower.

Never saw that but it does not surprise me one bit.
131 posted on 08/16/2010 8:48:22 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Palter

Can someone tell me what there is to like about Muslims? I can’t think of one thing!


132 posted on 08/16/2010 8:57:04 AM PDT by golf lover
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To: andy58-in-nh
In the past week, I have heard two brave Muslims on the air not only condemning radical Islamic violence in the abstract, but actually renouncing those who fail to do so. The experience confirmed for me that there are moderate and peaceful Muslims out there - but they are at present a small (and often frightened) minority as the dominant force in Islam at this time is decidedly radical and irredentist.

I came by this article written by a muslim.

Such people seem very few and far between and largely ignored by the media. They are no doubt at high risk of violence from their 'brethren'. Compounding our problem in believing such people is Al-taqiyya which allows muslims to advance the cause of Islam by lying.

When we judge Islam, we do so on the basis of the behavior of the overwhelming majority of the worlds billion+ muslims. Our survival depends upon it.

There are times when I wonder how different recent history would have been had the Shah of Iran not been deposed.
133 posted on 08/16/2010 9:22:43 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

Thanks for the links - I will read them later today. As for the Shah of Iran, I will only say that the decision of the US not to protect him and preserve his government was a seismic policy shift that set in motion a chain of events that is still unfolding 35 years later.


134 posted on 08/16/2010 9:29:22 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: rfreedom4u

Oh,,,I have to agree with you about that, then yes, I concede, there are liberal muslims.


135 posted on 08/16/2010 9:29:54 AM PDT by tillacum (It's the military, not the press, not the politicians, who keep this country free.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Thanks to jimmah cahtah.


136 posted on 08/16/2010 9:31:17 AM PDT by tillacum (It's the military, not the press, not the politicians, who keep this country free.)
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To: tillacum
Thanks to jimmah cahtah.

Yep. Worst President ever. Until now, that is.

137 posted on 08/16/2010 9:37:10 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: padre35
Unfortunately, the history of Islam is totally against your position. Since we are discussing “social justice” and the very real possibility that America and other nations may pass, and execute, judgment upon Islam, the issue arises: “We are not G*d, and should we care if there is ‘one righteous man’ in Islam?”

I suggest we follow the profound wisdom of St. Anne - Invade, conquer, convert or kill them”

138 posted on 08/16/2010 9:43:12 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: padre35
Unfortunately, the history of Islam is totally against your position. Since we are discussing “social justice” and the very real possibility that America and other nations may pass, and execute, judgment upon Islam, the issue arises: “We are not G*d, and should we care if there is ‘one righteous man’ in Islam?”

I suggest we follow the profound wisdom of St. Anne - Invade, conquer, convert or kill them”

139 posted on 08/16/2010 9:43:21 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: pnh102

Those whose opinion In value tell me that the essence of the translatios are accurate. In case of any question, use several text by different authors.

Don’t forget Google is your research buddy.


140 posted on 08/16/2010 9:45:23 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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