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my spouse who was born to US parents about the same time as obama, abroad in Canada obtained a social security card when he was young. In those days documents were issued without proof of birth. But few years back when he lost his card and wanted a new one, he was asked for his birth certificate, which and they would not give him a new card because his birth certificate said he was born in Canada, we were told that social security changed their requirements since he was born, and just becuase he had an old card, a drivers license and had voted, dint mean a thing, if he could not produce a birth certificate, or naturalization papers, then he was not eligible for a new social security card.

His parents were both US citizens, and he always knew he was a naturalized citizen, but never applied for the naturalization papers, BECASE IN THE 60s, and 70s, US documents were issued WITHOUT PROOF of citizenship. My spouse had to file for naturalization papers and eventually obtained the social security card.

IN SUMMARY, it could be very well possible, that Obama obtained his first passport by lying and in those day there a birth cert was not required, and he has been reissued a passport all these years, using the first fraudulent passport as a breeder document, just as to this day, my spouse's drivers license is reissued without have ever shown proof of a certified birth certificate or naturalization papers.

As for obama's Social security number, he couldn't beat the system by using his old card, since socail secirty asked for a birth cert these days so that is probably explains the story of why he has many different fraudulent cards.

Of course don't try to explain any of these real;l possibilities to a libral, who most are dumber than a doorknob and wont be able to follow any thing, good grief they don't know the difference between a billion and a trillion when it comes to debt, most don't know when a person is alive, and most cant tell a snake oil salesman when they see one in the likes of Obama!

46 posted on 08/16/2010 8:04:04 AM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay

I have often wondered if it is the Social Security card and various numbers that will finally show Intent to Obtain Fraudulent Identity. Wonder what that crime is actually called?

This might be the most he is ever proved to have done??


48 posted on 08/16/2010 8:13:12 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: seastay
IN SUMMARY, it could be very well possible, that Obama obtained his first passport by lying and in those day there a birth cert was not required, and he has been reissued a passport all these years...

A bc was, indeed, required to get a passport back in the old days when I got mine.

62 posted on 08/16/2010 8:39:07 AM PDT by lucysmom (Trolling since 2001.)
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To: seastay
my spouse who was born to US parents about the same time as obama, abroad in Canada obtained a social security card when he was young. In those days documents were issued without proof of birth. But few years back when he lost his card and wanted a new one, he was asked for his birth certificate, which and they would not give him a new card because his birth certificate said he was born in Canada, we were told that social security changed their requirements since he was born, and just becuase he had an old card, a drivers license and had voted, dint mean a thing, if he could not produce a birth certificate, or naturalization papers, then he was not eligible for a new social security card.

You are obviously lying, as it is not necessary to be a US citizen to obtain a social security card.

Next time, before you make up a story, I suggest check your facts to make sure it's plausible.

IN SUMMARY, it could be very well possible, that Obama obtained his first passport by lying and in those day there a birth cert was not required

There you go lying again. Do you really expect anyone to believe that the State Department just handed out passports to anyone who claimed US citizenship without showing proof?

my spouse's drivers license is reissued without have ever shown proof of a certified birth certificate or naturalization papers.

A drivers licnese and passport are not the same thing, and the documentation standard for the latter has always been much more stringent.

Birther dishonesty and stupidty never ceases to amaze me.

75 posted on 08/16/2010 9:16:27 AM PDT by curiosity
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