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To: kosciusko51
So unless my scientific paper says “as so willed by God” somewhere in it, it is “anti-God”?

There is no scientific way to show if God is or is not “directing” evolution. If you have faith, then all things are directed by God, and the outcome of every dice roll is directed by God. If you do not have faith, then a dice roll is just a dice roll. Science and its findings is universally accepted around the world because it does NOT include personal theology, but limits itself to what can be shown, not what should be accepted through faith.

Your stance shows just how abjectly ignorant you are of science, the scientific method, and what is and what is not the purview of science.

Most scientists in America are, like myself, men of faith.

Prov 16:33 The dice are cast into the lap, but every result is from the Lord.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seeks him.

79 posted on 08/21/2010 8:50:57 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
allmendream,

You fail to realize the following that is common in the discussion of evolutionary thinking:

Intelligence, Superstition and Religion

Various superstitions and religions are not products of biological evolution, but the capacity for or tendency towards superstitions and religious beliefs are products of biological evolution, similar to the way that languages are not biologically evolved, but the capacity for language is. ...

Science vs. Religion

In the debates over evolution the roles of science and religion are often discussed. It is commonly claimed by many, mostly by those supporting religion, that science and religion play two completely different roles and answer questions in two different domains. Proponents of this line of thinking state that there are certain questions that "science can't answer", and they state that these are the questions that fall under the domain of religion.

This line of reasoning is factually incorrect. First of all, most religions have historically promoted themselves as complete worldview systems, that answer all questions. The Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have certainly positioned themselves historically as religions that answer all questions, including questions about history, the nature of existence, life, morality, the future, and "life after death". ...

People are organic material beings, and as such we can be studied on an organic material basis. There are no questions that are "beyond science" that are not also beyond every other means of inquiry. If a question cannot be answered by science then it simply cannot be answered in any objective way, and indeed there are such questions, but these questions are no more capable of being "answered" by religion. ...

The Christian Worldview vs. Naturalistic Worldviews

Today the actual worldview of Christianity has been greatly distorted because of the fact that so much of the fundamental Christian worldview is in direct conflict with what are now scientifically established facts. ...

Traditional Christianity explains negative aspects of life through concepts such as original sin and the devil. Christians claim that God is all powerful, all knowing, and all loving, but it is obvious that there is much strife in the world, so Christians explain this away by claming (sic) that humans brought these troubles onto themselves when Eve ate forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. Other Christians see the problems in the world as being created by the devil. ...

I could continue to quote from the source, but it is more of the same.

These statements are presented by portions of the evolutionary community, and I I have not found a counter example to them. This basically say that evolution created religious beliefs. The God of the Bible that you quote is no more than an evolutionary quirk, and the Christian religion is provably false in its claims.

So, evolution may not be anti-God, but it sure seems anti-Christian from where I stand.

-K51

81 posted on 08/21/2010 3:17:53 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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