Army probes soldiers skipping Christian concert

Yahoo ^ | Aug 20, 2010 | STEVE SZKOTAK

[DJ MacWoW]

No. I don’t have TV as programs like that are few and far between. The usual garbage doesn’t make it worth it.

[trisham]

The series is very likely availabe on Amazon, but you would need a DVD player.

[trisham]

Oops. I should have typed “The series is very likely *available* on Amazon.

[LomanBill]

>>That's funny because here you said they did.

I said they DID use it - despite being inconsistent with the ideals they advocated.

 

Ideals they advocated by codifying them in the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom and the 1st Amendment.

 

Inconsistent? Yes - Some men in that same congress also wanted George Washington to be King.   The road to our FREE Republic was a great compromise.

>>Since it's based on the occult

Occult?  What does that word mean?

Oculus : Sight
Cult : Hidden

 

Occult - Hidden from Sight.

Yes, most men conspiring revolution WOULD want to keep their designs hidden from the sight of those presently enjoying a tyranny over them.   It goes along with keeping one's head in place when those in power would coercively, permanently, remove it.

 

The Occult?  Pfft.  Maybe it's YOU who need to lay off reading Dan Brown's misdirecting garbage.

 

The precise geographic relationship between the Jefferson Memorial, the WH, and Lodge 33 is not hidden - it is there in plain sight for anyone to see.    History is harder to revise when it's written in Stone.  

 

Perhaps it is the religionists who manufacture The Occult - by keeping out of sight the graceful gift of reconciliation which the Creator intended every one of His created INDIVIDUALS to have.  

 

Despite how well it might sell to the sheeple, the "christian" music I hear on the radio does NOT articulate the Gospel.  It is misdirection.

 

"No Popa" - no POPE; no Indulgence peddling Eunuchs or religionist-governmental hierarchy is required to effect that which God has made - The plan for reconciliation which, much to the chagrin of the money changers, the Architect of the Universe has put into place - all without, and even despite, human "help".

>>This is a Christian nation.

It was a Nation of many Christians; but never intended to be a Christian Theocracy.

 

The founders recognized that Faith grows better from the perception of self-evident Truth, than from the end of a master's whip.

You can not force someone to have faith; and trying to do so will more than likely have exactly the opposite effect.  By ordering someone to go to church you manufacture resentment, and compel them to reject the graceful gift that YOU did not create in the first place.

[DJ MacWoW]

I have a DVD player in my computer. And a portable one as I have grandkids.

[DJ MacWoW]

I'm not interested in your conspiracy theories as you try to shame and smear great men.

"No Popa" - no POPE; no Indulgence peddling Eunuchs or religionist-governmental hierarchy

And yet you attend a "religionist hierarchy church". Religionist-governmental hierarchy is something the Founders never backed and I never claimed that they did. They asked for Christian faith and morality. Two things that were in abundance then.

You are stuck in a rut, accusing others and the Founders of YOUR bogey man that you've invented. I see no point in continuing a conversation with someone as rigid as you.

Good day to you.

[trisham]

Have you seen “Band of Brothers”? That’s a much older one, but very good, as is “Saving Private Ryan”.

[LomanBill]

>>Being sanctimonious does not make friends or influence people

And yet you still persist in it.

>>You don't question their dogma.

The LCMS encourages free discourse rooted in The Word - it does not practice dogmatic coercion.

 

The former relying upon the power of the Holy Spirit in The Word to effect perception of His self-evident Truth; the latter being "Believe what we tell you or be burned at the Stake".

 

The former being what the American Founders intended - the latter being what the STATE Church of England, generally DID.... or worse - which is why we have that whole "no unusual punishments" thingee in our constitution.

 

'Course then you probably think it your kindly duty to remove someones entrails in the course of "saving" them.

[DJ MacWoW]

No, I haven’t seen those. I watch a lot of childrens movies. lol

[trisham]

I love children’s movies. I watch “The Incredibles” every time it comes on. Have you seen “Matilda”? I love that one. I also like the “Ice Age” series, and the “Shreck” series.

[DJ MacWoW]

Some of those I have seen and some I haven't. My 6 yr old granddaughter likes Princess Diaries, Flight of the Navigator, Lilo and Stitch, Ice Age and Disney movie cartoons. I do too.

I think some of the humor in Shrek is too adult so I don't have those. I'm very careful about what they watch. The younger ones are 3 and 4.

[LomanBill]

>>And yet you attend a "religionist hierarchy church".

 

Not one that removes people's entrails to "save" them - like the STATE Church of England did.

 

If you want to be a Royal Subject under the King/State Church of England - you're free to paddle your religionist canoe back Eastward across the Pond.

 

I and other FREE American Citizens will muddle along without you.

 

 

 

 

[DJ MacWoW]

Oh and we have Veggie Tales.

[ladyvet]

I went thru Ft. Sill in 1980 and it didn't seem like a big deal at all. Go to church or where ever it was they would like your attendance or go back and do what had been planned on the duty rooster, which was usually cleaning. No one complained, no one was forcing religion, you had a choice.

[LomanBill]

>>try to shame and smear great men.

Explain how Jefferson's own words, written in stone on the walls of his memorial, "smear" him:

 

 

"TEMPORAL PUNISHMENTS" -Hmmm -  Is that sort of like "go clean the latrine"...or something?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[trisham]

I hear you. There really are some wonderful movies for children out there. The teen movies can be a problem, though.

[trisham]

I don’t think that I’ve ever heard of that one.

[DJ MacWoW]

Veggie Tales are Christian cartoons.

Larry the Cucumber - Hairbrush Song

[Sooner Gal]

Totally agree.

[LomanBill]

>>But he's dead.

 

The Masons who built his memorial evidently weren't.   Nor are Jefferson's IDEAS.

 

The frontal view of Jefferson's statue is obscured by pillars - except when viewed directly from the North. 

 

 

Just a Coinkidink? 

 

The White House - IS exactly one Mile to the North.  

 

Just a Coinkidink? 

 

Or is the design of the Republic's Capital City such that the design itself is a deliberate historical record.   A record to compel the occupant of the WH to look out of the Oval Office window, back in history across the tidal basin, guided by the Masonic Compass (Washington Memorial) - to see Jefferson's statue standing there, glaring at him, with ETERNAL HOSTILITY hanging over his head?

 

"Is this legislation on my desk consistent with the American Ideals written in stone in TJ's memorial over there" - is that what the occupant of the Oval Office should be asking themselves?   I think it is.

 

How's YOUR moral compass aligned, Trisha?  Is it calibrated so your Creator - or your self - is the object of worship?  It can't point at both.

Rom 1:25-26
25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen.

 

26 Because of this, God gave them over...
NIV

Are we there yet?

 

Religion is Man's creation - not God's.

."..who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time..."

---Thomas Jefferson, The Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

Nothing new under the Sun.