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Can Europe Survive Its Population Plunge? (Auto-Genocide -- or Geno-Suicide -- of a Civililation)
InsideCatholic ^ | Augut 20, 2010 | Mary Jo Anderson

Posted on 08/21/2010 7:02:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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Both lists. Anyone doubt that the natural family is the foundation of human civilization? Here is proof that it is. It takes people - not just people, but well-raised people with traditional aka "real" morality, to create human civilization. And without sufficient people even in the numbers - collapse is inevitable. Please read Mrs. Don-o's short and truth comments.

Europe is committing suicide. And it isn't just the bare fact that they aren't reproducing, it's WHY they aren't reproducing. What they're choosing instead.

It's all about putting ME ME ME (body and mind) - selfish desires - first, instead of God, and living the way He instructs. Which not only pleases Him, but brings happiness to the heart, and peace to the world.

61 posted on 08/21/2010 4:30:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Both lists. Anyone doubt that the natural family is the foundation of human civilization? Here is proof that it is. It takes people - not just people, but well-raised people with traditional aka "real" morality, to create human civilization. And without sufficient people even in the numbers - collapse is inevitable. Please read Mrs. Don-o's short and truthful comments.

Europe is committing suicide. And it isn't just the bare fact that they aren't reproducing, it's WHY they aren't reproducing. What they're choosing instead.

It's all about putting ME ME ME (body and mind) - selfish desires - first, instead of God, and living the way He instructs. Which not only pleases Him, but brings happiness to the heart, and peace to the world.

62 posted on 08/21/2010 4:30:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Demographic Winter:The Decline of the Human Family
http://www.demographicwinter.com/index.html

‘Homophobia,’ demographic decline, Islamic immigration and the European death wish
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=34722

How to Take the Chill Out of Demographic Winter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1928399/posts


63 posted on 08/21/2010 6:34:07 PM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: CarWashMan

actually Spain is busy importing Mexican immigrants to work there.

And lots of Filipinos in Spain and other European countries.


64 posted on 08/21/2010 6:57:01 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: prairiebreeze

read in AM


65 posted on 08/21/2010 7:24:50 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We don't have a leader in the Oval Office, we have a odreader in the Oval Office.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Can Europe survive it’s population plunge?”

There will be plenty of people in Europe in coming generations. I think a better question to ask would be “will there be a culture in Europe that any of us would recognize as being “european” in two generations?”

The answer to that question is of course, no. The european culture that we in turn drew our culture from has committed suicide. Note that I use the past tense.


66 posted on 08/21/2010 8:48:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics, and victors study demographics.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It happened to Rome first.

That is why there are few (if any) full blooded Romans. All the nations in Europe have Germanic blood from that time when the German tribes over ran the Empire. Which was deafened by other German tribes.

It took a long time for the tribes to rebuild civilization to what it was. We call that time the dark ages. I fear we are on the cusp of another Dark Age.

67 posted on 08/22/2010 6:09:15 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: massmike

Thank you! Excellent, very valuable links. (I’ll use these again.)


68 posted on 08/22/2010 8:15:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Perversions destroy civilizations.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
I think you're right. The "land" of Europe will be there; it will be "populated," but those populating it will not be Europeans either in ancestry or in culture.

They've culturally suicided, and you are quite right to use the past tense.

The only hope is that a remnant will be saved. We've been reading Ezechiel in church lately, pretty grim: it has a theme of pret-near total destruction, caused by the infidelity of God's people, followed (after some period of time) with restoration.

Note that I am not referring to this as a particuar prophecy, but as a theme: destruction will happen. It will be because of sin. A remnant will survive, and --- maybe after generations --- re-commit themselves to the True God, and be restored.

I hope.

69 posted on 08/22/2010 8:26:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Perversions destroy civilizations.)
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To: redgolum
I'm finding it harder and harder to avoid the same very grave conclusion. More at #69.
70 posted on 08/22/2010 8:29:19 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Perversions destroy civilizations.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And American Christians are pretty much in denial.


71 posted on 08/22/2010 9:07:05 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics, and victors study demographics.)
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To: LadyDoc

When I was in Barcelona back in ‘07, the fast food/ice cream parlors were staffed with Ecuadorians, while there were many Filipinos amongst the waitstaff in many of the restaurants. Much as is the case in NYC, many of the souvenir stores on the Ramblas (OVERRATED) were owned by East Indians. Not much Catalan being spoken amongst any of the above, however.


72 posted on 08/22/2010 9:18:31 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Jack Black
Your idea that African Christians can save European civilization has to be one of the most inane ideas posted here recently....

On the other hand, as in the past (legal) migrations to America, the people with the moxie to make the journey are a self-selected group with the intelligence, drive and daring to make a difficult migration and resettlement. Contemporary Europe and the U.S. err in making migration too easy. But the worsening economic situation will see barriers start to rise again.

And surely you must realize that IQ tests vary greatly in design and have been widely criticized for cultural irrelevance when applied to those whose backgrounds differ widely from the test designers. They are more aptly viewed as ESCQ (English-speaking cultural quotient) tests than true tests of raw intelligence.

73 posted on 08/22/2010 9:28:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Rest in peace, Congressman BillyBob.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Just another reason for investigating the survival of JUDAISM and Christianity. God will save a remnant. Yes?


74 posted on 08/22/2010 9:29:18 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: RKBA Democrat

True. I don’t think I’ve quite faced the reality, myself. If I had, I would be living differently.


75 posted on 08/22/2010 9:30:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("My subject is the action of grace in territory largely held by the devil." - Flannery O'Connor)
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To: GOPJ

wonderful cultures that have become what? The traditional cultures may have been wonderful, but today, so many are alike in their depravity that they are self-destructing through immorality. From God’s perspective, who cares if your great-grandparents wore cute wooden shoes? It was their love of God and his blessings through their children that gave their culture LIFE. Today’s cultures are cultures of death and do not deserve to survive. Consequences, consequences, consequences.

This isn’t the first time that God has raised a people to enact judgment, but being worldwide, it should be the last, and they will not survive His return.

If our children had 8 kids per family (I had always wanted 5) would that turn this around?


76 posted on 08/22/2010 9:36:54 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: RachelFaith

Will china nuke the U.S? or just use an EMP effectively so they can still farm here?


77 posted on 08/22/2010 9:54:20 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

China will do no such thing.

China is NOT the enemy.

If we do suffer the fate of an EMP it will be a rogue missile launched from a boat just off shore by Muslims Terrorists.

Most likely, however, is that we just implode as we continue to monetize our debt and the world goes into a depression.

In the end times, there is NOT a one world order, but a 4 world order. 4 kings. 4 kingdoms.

Thus, America is likely all Hispanic. North, South, Central, all reverts to the Azteca.

Europe and all of the former Roman/Byzantium empires, are Islamic.

Africa then finally emerges as a player, and lastly the East, China, of course, but by then, America as it was and as we know it, just as lost of a memory as is Byzantium to us today.

This will NOT take more than 2 generations. 50-60 years and the entire world is different.


78 posted on 08/22/2010 10:03:35 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: huldah1776

Though I want and intend to trust God, the world situation scares me to the marrow, having never faced utter calamity. I need to emulate Job: “Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him.”


79 posted on 08/22/2010 10:13:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("My subject is the action of grace in territory largely held by the devil." - Flannery O'Connor)
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To: RachelFaith

I don’t actually think of China as an enemy any more than Russia or Venezuela, but like any people there are survival issues and the Chinese are very resourceful.

The 4 world order, where does that come from? Also, do you think that God will allow child sacrifice to continue that long? 40th anniversary for the US in 2013.


80 posted on 08/22/2010 10:14:41 AM PDT by huldah1776
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