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Modeling predicts “ocean acidification mitigation” - Limiting ocean acidification ...
Watts Up With That? ^ | August 21, 2010 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 08/21/2010 1:11:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

From the National Oceanography Centre (NOC), the Natural Environment Research Council (NERC), the University of Southampton, we have what looks to be a another Willis igniter.

Limiting ocean acidification under global change

Coral reefs are vulnerable to ocean acidification (Copyright (c) 2004 (Image provided with press release)

Emissions of carbon dioxide are causing ocean acidification as well as global warming. Scientists have previously used computer simulations to quantify how curbing of carbon dioxide emissions would mitigate climate impacts. New computer simulations have now examined the likely effects of mitigation scenarios on ocean acidification trends. They show that both the peak year of emissions and post-peak reduction rates influence how much ocean acidity increases by 2100. Changes in ocean pH over subsequent centuries will depend on how much the rate of carbon dioxide emissions can be reduced in the longer term.

Largely as a result of human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels for energy and land-use changes such deforestation, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is now higher that it has been at any time over the last 800,000 years. Most scientists believe this increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide to be an important cause of global warming.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; co2; globalwarminghoax; thenexthing
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1 posted on 08/21/2010 1:12:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv; Paul Pierett; neverdem; I got the rope; ...

The computer models are so good at predicting global warming they are moving onto the Next Big Thing!


2 posted on 08/21/2010 1:14:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Horsey poop, plug all the volcano's.
3 posted on 08/21/2010 1:16:22 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; DollyCali; IrishCatholic; meyer; SteamShovel; Desdemona; grey_whiskers; ...
GIGO

Thanx Ernest !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 08/21/2010 1:17:49 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We need to fund more studies QUICK!!!!!...OR WE’RE all GONNA DIE!!!!


5 posted on 08/21/2010 1:18:43 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: boomop1
Right....from the commentary:

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rbateman says:

August 21, 2010 at 11:51 am

“The oceans absorb around a third of carbon dioxide emissions, which helps limit global warming, but uptake of carbon dioxide by the oceans also increases their acidity, with potentially harmful effects on calcifying organisms such as corals and the ecosystems that they support,” explained Dr Toby Tyrrell of the University of Southampton’s School of Ocean and Earth Science (SOES) based at the National Oceanography Centre, Southampton.

Then life in the oceans should have gone extinct a long time ago, as sevaeral ages of intense vulcanism pumped C02 and S02 into the atmosphere in ginormous quantities, set the peat bogs and coal beds on fire, and choked the planet in a Gortoxic sludge.

“Our computer simulations allow us to predict what impact the timing and rapidity of emission reductions will have on future acidification, helping to inform policy makers” said Tyrrell.

Helping themselves to the piles of cash, for supporting the enforcement of energy denial upon the citizens who will now be known as neo-serfs. This isn’t about saving the planet, it’s about creating the Ultra-Elite, or so they think.
What happens after the success of the political agenda?
The knowledge base that empowers challenge to the new power is liquidated.
And so it goes.


6 posted on 08/21/2010 1:18:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

More CO2 dissolves in cold water than in hot water. So, warming the oceans makes the oceans less acidic, while at the same time raising CO2 in the atmosphere.

The AGW crowd has cause and effect backwards. CO2 lags ocean warming. Plus water has a very high specific heat - meaning it takes a lot of energy to raise ocean temperature even a little bit. Air, by comparison, has a much lower specific heat, so air temperatures will fluctuate much more than water temperatures.


7 posted on 08/21/2010 1:22:06 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's getting to a point where you can't spit, belch, puke, piss or crap without breaking a Global Warming Law...
8 posted on 08/21/2010 1:22:42 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“Our computer simulations allow us to predict what impact the timing and rapidity of emission reductions will have on future acidification, helping to inform policy makers” said Tyrrell.

The accuracy of predictive computer simulations is limited to the accuracy that simulation can recreate defined and known past historical conditions. If the model only is calibrated to today - it is worthless for only tomorrow, no more.

9 posted on 08/21/2010 1:23:40 PM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They neglect to reveal that the warmer the seawater, the LESS it is able to absorb CO2 so the warming would actually decrease the absorption..just like a warm Coca Cola loses its carbonation.

Can't have it both ways. Nature has its own long-standing checks and balances in place.

10 posted on 08/21/2010 1:24:55 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
we have what looks to be a another Willis igniter.

What you talkin' about Willis!?

11 posted on 08/21/2010 1:24:55 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sewag treatment plant effluence exceeds the deepwater horizon output (of inert oil) daily.

treated sewage dumped into the ocean is high in acid and the untreated is high in bacteria

obviously this is not a factor because government is responsible for sewage [/sarcasm]

12 posted on 08/21/2010 1:26:20 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: mc5cents

LOL!


13 posted on 08/21/2010 1:27:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: KTM rider
Got to fix that....EPA on the way....from the comments:

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CRS, Dr.P.H. says:

August 21, 2010 at 12:00 pm

Errata, public comments for EPA regulation of ocean acidification via CWA are now closed:

http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#documentDetail?R=0900006480ac472a

Lots of “good” material in here for you to study! I expect a lame-duck session action in Congress to do something about all this (large point-source contributors of carbon dioxide will be regulated, ex. power plants, other industry).

My industrial clients inform me that they are gearing up for this in a big way, EPA carbon regulation seems unstoppable at this point. Crying won’t help, get ready….


14 posted on 08/21/2010 1:31:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I had a discussion about this with a storm water contractor for the state (WA) on FreeRepublic.

The discussion was about the fact that the Supreme Court had ruled that the states could no longer use the Federal Clean Water Act to regulate ditches, streams, creeks, and even branches of rivers. Non-navigable waters means non-navigable waters, not water that connects to navigable waters.

Add that to the debunking of global warming and the Green Machine was nearly stalled. They quickly came up with a new plan - acid rain. The problem with the acid rain tack is that they (the Greens) must arbitrarily decide which emissions are ok and which are not because nearly everything that we do could be claimed to be creating acid rain.


15 posted on 08/21/2010 1:32:35 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Dixie Yooper

See #14.


16 posted on 08/21/2010 1:32:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ocean acidification mitigation. Hmmmm. Good headline. But WTH? Did I stumble onto the Scientific American thread? I was just looking to see how Obama did today on the golf course. Wondering if he beat 100 without cheating.


17 posted on 08/21/2010 1:34:06 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Eva

See #14.


18 posted on 08/21/2010 1:34:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Like I said, the gov’t runs into a problem with their regulation because they must arbitrarily decide which carbon emitters to exempt. How are they going to do that and get away with it. If they don’t exempt some, the prices of everything will “necessarily skyrocket”.

With the economy in such a mess, the people will revolt.


19 posted on 08/21/2010 1:39:25 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva; All
There is a lynch mob out here around Bell California...had a city manager getting $800,000 salary plus loans and goodies...

Shutting down here be back later....

20 posted on 08/21/2010 2:03:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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