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1 posted on 08/21/2010 1:16:37 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG

I wonder why a “good faith estimate” costs an average 37% more . . . .


2 posted on 08/21/2010 1:27:16 PM PDT by jeffc (One Big A$$ Mistake America)
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Good Faith Estimates are now a joke. They will say the closing costs are from $3,000 to $25,000, making each line item as much of a wild swing as the final estimate. “Documentation Fees: $250-$4,000. Transaction Fee: $25-$1,780. etc”


3 posted on 08/21/2010 1:28:02 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: fightinJAG

Mortgages are criminal acts of enslavement (like credit cards) unlike a conventional consumer loan


4 posted on 08/21/2010 1:30:01 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: fightinJAG; M. Espinola; All
Video: Glenn Beck Explains the Housing Bubble

The Housing Collapse of 2010 Will Be Worse Than 2008 !

Hate to say I told you so. But I did, repeatedly. The bomb is still ticking and wild insanity is just beginning. The full blown tsunami is coming.

LOL, LOL !

Home Prices Are Approaching Garbage Rental Rates
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5 posted on 08/21/2010 2:05:21 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: fightinJAG

Here’s a place where govt. regulation actually could be a benefit to the consumer. But, Congress usually makes govt. regulations that are only a benefit to themselves, so I hold out no hope.

Concerning other types of loans, these fees are being assessed everywhere. We need to refinance our business, and we are finding special fees being charged everywhere we look.


6 posted on 08/21/2010 2:15:04 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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To: fightinJAG
Are they comparing pre-closing estimates vs. pre-closing estimates or final closing costs vs final closing costs. The "good faith" estimates were getting pretty inaccurate. "Oops, it's $1000 more than we estimated. So sorry."

Also, now appraisers actually have to appraise the house rather than merely checking on Google maps satellite view just to make sure that there was a house there at some time. Real appraisals cost more.

8 posted on 08/21/2010 2:22:14 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: fightinJAG

I’ve never understood “closing costs”. It seems something restricted to real estate. Why should the lender be paid extra to process the loan? A “title company”? None are involved when we transfer a car title. Does the average home need to be surveyed every time it’s sold?
It seems like a scam to me.


9 posted on 08/21/2010 2:22:32 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: fightinJAG

Good. It is time to bury the myth that home ownership is the “American dream”, and either end the mortgage deduction or institute a renter’s deduction. Government needs to stop distorting the proper function of the markets. Some people are NEVER meant to own a home.


10 posted on 08/21/2010 2:30:04 PM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: fightinJAG

Is an “FSBO” sale still a viable option?


15 posted on 08/21/2010 4:07:08 PM PDT by redhead (Abortion: The number one killer of human beings. Period.)
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To: fightinJAG

Last time I refinanced with my existing mortgage company, it cost me $300. This time, because of Obama and the Democrats, it’s going to cost me at least $1500. Stupid democrats. Always making us pay more for less.


16 posted on 08/21/2010 5:53:02 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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As an attorney working for one of the 5 largest lenders in the nation, I specialize in reviewing the documentation of failing banks, which we consider purchasing. I also review all our loan sales and buys in the bulk markets. Straight up facts leading to this huge increase are these 3 and in this order.

First, the government tells us, we MUST make bad loans. We have our credit rules, and many loans just are not good investments and we know it. When we do the worksheets, it screams off the screen. DO NOT LOAN! But, by law, to even be allowed to loan, we MUST make bad loans for certain demographics, which include sex, age, race, and geography. If we “profile” we are going to go out of business by law. Most of these laws were done under Democrat Presidents, the worst of them, during the Clinton Administration.

Thus, we know it’s bad paper, and we tag it internally as such, but do the loan anyway, tossing it in with a bundle of VERY GOOD paper to spread the loss and risk.

Investors to whom we sell the notes, but usually retain the servicing, that is we take the payments, make the collection calls, and do the “work” for a small up front fee, while the investor has a safe and moderate long term profit, know this. They usually allow for a 3% failure rate in any bundle. Anything more than 3% and they LOSE money. The bank doesn’t. We made our money three ways. Upfront fees for closing, and upfront cash for the “loan bundle sale” and “servicing”.

Second, because the investors, not the banks, got screwed when many banks made many more bad loans than the minimums required, basically because of all those front loaded fee profits, these investors demand a LOT more info before they will but them. They have to buy them. No bank actually has the money to loan any more. We buy and sell bulk loan groups every day. If we did not, we’d run out of cash to lend in a few days and be done. The banking system is just like a grocery store, miss one truck shipment, and you are OUT of business and inventory.

Thus, these fees are higher because the investors want us to actually TELL them about the loans in far more detail than previously. Now, honestly, it’s not THAT much more work, so banks ARE jacking the fees, which is why you see the rates wildly ranging. How much do you think we can charge today, is the rule. And as much as we can is the answer.

But, it is simply because the bank doesn’t have the money to actually lend, which is the reason why the fees exist in the first place.

Lastly, banks are getting less in the fees from the investors. These investors HAVE the cash. They can buy or not buy any damned loans they wish and after this asskicking they took, they are picky SOBs. They just won’t pay what they used to pay and tell the banks “hey, you don’t like our lowball offer, go find someone else to buy them”. Which of course, would wipe the bank out to hold these notes more than 30 days. Most loans are sold to investors the week after the closing and right of rescission has expired.

So, there we are. You want a loan, you are a good risk, the bank would LOVE to have you, the investors want to be sure the bank is not lying to them, but you are covering for the bad loans the government DEMANDS the banks make. And the only way the bank makes any money at all, is to over charge YOU the good credit risk.

It sucks.

All of us in the banking industry would love to see these laws changed. We lobby and spend billions to protect our rights and see true fair lending laws enacted. But, not all banks. There is a war going on between the big 20. Some, who I cannot mention for obvious reasons, do NOT want to see these rules changed and actually supported the bad loan rules. Because they not only got to make out like thieves when they charged fees for bad loans, but they lobbied for the tax payers to cover them if the defaults went beyond 3%. Which, of course, all happened.

The bottom line is this: Until those laws are repealed. Until banks are free to say “you suck and we won’t lend to you” without being racist, profiling, Fill-in-the-blank-Phobes, bad loans are going to be made and YOU the good customer, are going to pay for them. One way or the other.

So, there are BAD banks, good banks, and banks stuck in the middle trying to just not go under today.


21 posted on 08/27/2010 7:53:38 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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