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S.Korea detects 'massive' N.Korea troop deployment
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Posted on 08/24/2010 9:26:28 AM PDT by jhpigott

S.Korea detects 'massive' N.Korea troop deployment (AFP) – 08/24/10

SEOUL — South Korea has detected a "massive" deployment of North Korean troops and arms near the capital Pyongyang, Seoul's defence ministry said Tuesday.

The large number of soldiers, armoured vehicles and artillery have been stationed near the communist state's capital since July 12, the ministry said in a report to parliament.

The deployment appears to be related to political events such as a meeting of key communist party delegates next month and the party's 65th anniversary on October 10, a ministry spokesman told AFP.

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KEYWORDS: 2beclusterbombed; china; korea; northkorea; pyongyang; republicofkorea; southkorea
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This doesn't sound like a direct threat to S. Korea. More likely, this is a show of force to dissuade any potential coup attempts during the change over of power to Kim's son. Some reports I've seen are saying 2 combat divisions have been moved and are camped right outside Pyongang.
1 posted on 08/24/2010 9:26:31 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

You don’t send 2 combat divisions to the capital for a military parade. They are there to keep the order. It seems ole Kimmy is losing his grasp on life and power and no one seems to believe his 20 something year old son can cut the mustard.

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Korea: This Is Going To Hurt

August 24, 2010: Since June, at least two additional combat divisions have been camped outside the North Korean capital. No official explanation was given for this troop movement (which required using a lot of scarce fuel.) All is speculation in the north, because intel agencies in South Korea, the United States and China are reluctant to release any solid information, lest they risk exposing the few good sources they have up there. But the current rumors indicate that most of what’s going on up north these days is driven by efforts to keep the government going. This is difficult, because supreme leader Kim Jong Il is apparently dying, or at least believes he is. The big problem is that his chosen successor is his youngest son, an able enough young man in his 20s. That’s too young for a place like Korea, where people like their leaders elderly. Kim Jong Il is trying to convince his elderly associates to honor his choice of successor, and apparently not everyone is convinced.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20100824.aspx


2 posted on 08/24/2010 9:27:42 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

Some insurance for “I’m so rohnree.”


3 posted on 08/24/2010 9:28:22 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: jhpigott

People are to busy talking about the Mid-East, to realize what is happening in the Far East.


4 posted on 08/24/2010 9:29:04 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: jhpigott

Obama on vacation there?


5 posted on 08/24/2010 9:29:15 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: jhpigott

6 posted on 08/24/2010 9:29:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: jhpigott

NK could suddenly fall apart like a rice paper house in a typhoon.


7 posted on 08/24/2010 9:30:19 AM PDT by AU72
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To: jhpigott

Hmmmm...

Perhaps vaguely analogous to Julius Caesar’s army camped on the far side of the Rubicon??


8 posted on 08/24/2010 9:30:29 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: jhpigott

Is Jimmy Carter advising NK on how to attack SK?


9 posted on 08/24/2010 9:30:47 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: AU72
NK could suddenly fall apart like a rice paper house in a typhoon.

Neither China nor South Korea want that, so I'm sure secretly they both have a joint contingency plan should that happen.

10 posted on 08/24/2010 9:32:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AU72

“NK could suddenly fall apart like a rice paper house in a typhoon.”

Short of a full on frontal assault by the NORKs, the collapse of NK is probably the single biggest fear for S. Korea, China and all of Asia. Power grabs by different military factions, refugee issues, etc.


11 posted on 08/24/2010 9:32:21 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: r9etb

Is that the photo that goes with the quote, “He’s dead, Jim?”


12 posted on 08/24/2010 9:33:01 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: jhpigott
the United States and China are reluctant to release any solid information, lest they risk exposing the few good sources they have up there.

Satellites?

13 posted on 08/24/2010 9:35:38 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

No.

The correct quote is “He is so ronery, Jim!”


14 posted on 08/24/2010 9:38:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Carley
"Is Jimmy Carter advising NK on how to attack SK?"

He's probably still busy telling Hezbohla and Hamas how to injure Israel.

15 posted on 08/24/2010 9:39:48 AM PDT by blam
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To: jhpigott

Monty Python could have made great spoofs out of little Kim.
I mean the guns the soldiers carry are bigger than the half starved soldiers are. It’s like the killer rabbit thing, where something faily insignificant gets blown out of proportion into a “killer”.

When his troops have nothing more to eat than the soles of their shoes, he better wish he’s already dead.


16 posted on 08/24/2010 9:43:38 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Indeed. Are words really necessary?


17 posted on 08/24/2010 9:44:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: maquiladora; jeffers; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

metal on the move

ping


18 posted on 08/24/2010 9:45:38 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Ping.


19 posted on 08/24/2010 9:52:45 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: jhpigott; AmericanInTokyo; ConservativeMind

Wow...MI types will get to see T-34s, T54s, T-55s, and PT-76s on the move....and NOT at the museums!


20 posted on 08/24/2010 9:55:21 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: DCBryan1

I’m suprised they even had the fuel available to get them to Pyongyang.

In all seriousness, nothing good is going to come of this. On the one hand, if Kim’s son is to assume the throne it will probably require some additional armed provocations (ie Cheonan) to legitimize himself to the NORK military heirarchy. On the other hand, the transition to power is anything but smoothe upon Kim’s death; power struggles ensue, serious refugee issues for S. Korea and China, etc.


21 posted on 08/24/2010 10:01:02 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott
"...supreme leader Kim Jong Il is apparently dying, or at least believes he is."

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.
- Hebrews 9:27

Comrade Chia Pet will discover too late that they don't serve his favorite liquor in the place he's going to.

Here's wishing him an eternity eating tree bark and grub worms, and then having the grub worms return the favor.
22 posted on 08/24/2010 10:03:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (If the traitor John McCain wins his primary race today, we will have Sarah Palin to thank for it.)
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To: jhpigott

That and with our excellent trustworthy foreign policy experience in the administrative branch, I’m not a bit concerned.


23 posted on 08/24/2010 10:12:09 AM PDT by John W (Chuck Todd Is An Ass)
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To: Uncle Ike

I’m thinking it’s more like Burnside at Frederiscksberg...


24 posted on 08/24/2010 10:17:31 AM PDT by Left2Right (Starve the Beast!)
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To: Carley

At the very least, he is (possibly) going to be seen as giving credence to the new Dear Leader.


25 posted on 08/24/2010 10:25:35 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: jhpigott

This is very interesting.....thank you for posting...I have an interest in N. Korea for it’s people who have so long been terribly mislead. So these events unfolding are certainly going to change something up there...and I see China has it’s leaders visiting there more frequently now as well. So things are cooking as to the future of this ‘Hermit Kingdom”.


26 posted on 08/24/2010 10:26:45 AM PDT by caww
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To: jhpigott

Yep....neither China nor any in Asia want to see the collapse but I am not so sure it can be prevented with all considered. Is China massing anything more on their borders now? If they start to move, which might be their call in what N.Korea is doing now, then they will be the first to attempt a power Grab...with S. Korea right behind if not along side to do the same.


27 posted on 08/24/2010 10:39:08 AM PDT by caww
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To: jhpigott

we should pull out of South Korea.

They don’t like us, they don’t want us there. And our saber rattling will just embolden the North Koreans.

I’m serious. South Korea has never been that great of an ally - we should just let the hungry dogs eat them.


28 posted on 08/24/2010 10:39:27 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: caww

Yea, the last thing China wants is a unified Korea under the command of Seoul because that could potentially mean US soldiers on or near their border, so we can’t discount a power grab by China in the event of a NORK govt collapse.


29 posted on 08/24/2010 10:43:47 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

good, now that they are all bunched up in one spot.. it makes it a whole lot easier to take em out :)


30 posted on 08/24/2010 10:59:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Uncle Ike

Nice target all massed up...


31 posted on 08/24/2010 11:02:52 AM PDT by aeonspromise
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To: jhpigott; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Jet Jaguar; Cindy; monkapotamus

Chia Pet maybe dying RIGHT NOW


32 posted on 08/24/2010 11:03:26 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile")
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To: jhpigott; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Jet Jaguar; Cindy; monkapotamus

Chia Pet maybe dying RIGHT NOW


33 posted on 08/24/2010 11:03:30 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile")
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To: r9etb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWDilXZQEo


34 posted on 08/24/2010 11:06:53 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: jhpigott

I talked with a friend who is very up on what is happening there and he told me that what the South fears will happen now is Kim will order all the political prisoners and known dissenters killed in a mass killing spree before his son takes over.

Smooth the way by eliminating what could be a million+ mouths that need feeding and resources to guard and care for them, also dieing with the blame so his son will be clear of any later charges or crimes against humanity.


35 posted on 08/24/2010 11:20:18 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Well!

Old Man knows he’s going to Hell soon, so he goes off with one last horrifying act of brutality. God help Korea!


36 posted on 08/24/2010 11:33:13 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: jhpigott

you really think anyone in their right mind “wants” N.Korea?


37 posted on 08/24/2010 11:34:27 AM PDT by glide625
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“you really think anyone in their right mind “wants” N.Korea?”

Nope, everybody wants the status quo. But unless Kim can convince his military that his son is ready to lead, then that house of cards may come down. Nature abhors a vacuum . . .


38 posted on 08/24/2010 11:37:42 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: Tzimisce

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Korea_Marine_Corps#Vietnam_War

They backed us in Vietnam, have provided us with a strategic outpost to monitor both the Russians and the Chinese, and are healthy trading partners.

But your right we should just abandon all our allies to the hungry dogs that is an excellent strategy.


39 posted on 08/24/2010 11:39:08 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: jhpigott

We need to go into NK and take over command of the military and use it to invade Iran. The DPRK military is such a closed society they will take orders from who ever they think is running the show.


40 posted on 08/24/2010 11:41:35 AM PDT by ScottLA37
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To: jhpigott

Exactly....China actually does not care about the N.Korean peoples, rather maintaining the status quo which indeed keeps the US off their borders. Where was China when millions were dying of starvation...and still do? But as we know all food helps goes directly to the military and the elits...little if any to the people no matter who send it.

I many respects this is all between China and the US than the Koreans...though of course the fallout of any changes affects all of Asia. But the root is between the US and China. Unfortunately our hand in their coffers so deep now they have leverages which once were not possible. This too will play out as things move or don’t in these events.


41 posted on 08/24/2010 11:43:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: Tzimisce

This is more between China and the Us than the Koreans. It will be interesting how it all pans out.


42 posted on 08/24/2010 11:46:05 AM PDT by caww
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...we can’t discount a power grab by China in the event of a NORK govt collapse.

IMHO if the regime collapses South Korea can not hesitate one second. They must get in and get in fast. Hopefully they will not meet Chinese armor at Pyongyang.

43 posted on 08/24/2010 11:47:48 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Abathar

That would not be surprising....the people are simply cannon fodder one way or another...and denial rules the people...they have lost the ability entirely of making decisions for themselves...and the leadership continueously feeds lies to keep it that way. Independant thought is not welcomed.

Even if we were to go in and free these people...they would not grasp that freedom well at all...it would almost have to be another dictator or politcal group who understands the mindsetr of the people. They need to be told what to do..they have no sense otherwise. Rather like an abused wife who has no clue what to do once she is free from her tormentor.


44 posted on 08/24/2010 11:51:45 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

It will take generations before they get over what has been done to them in the last 65 years if they were freed tomorrow and given the resources of the world to rebuild.


45 posted on 08/24/2010 11:54:40 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: jhpigott

all-hands meeting?


46 posted on 08/24/2010 11:55:14 AM PDT by rahbert
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“refugee issues, etc.”

Once the first wave or two of refugees headed into SK clears out the minefields, the others will have a clear shot over the border.


47 posted on 08/24/2010 11:55:43 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: Pan_Yan

But they will be met with China’s armor swiftly coming over the border. China will not risk the Us on their borders under any conditions...N.Korea, to the Chinese, is simply a buffer zone from the S. Koreans rise to freedom and the 21st century. If S. Korea goes in fast China will definately do more than oppose.


48 posted on 08/24/2010 11:55:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: jhpigott

Honestly, who cares. I’m sick of worrying about some rock half way around the world.


49 posted on 08/24/2010 11:56:17 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: jhpigott

North Korea is getting ready for the Jimmy Carter Rambo trip to get someone out of jail. Jimmy just don’t lust after the women in NK. Kim won’t cotton to that.


50 posted on 08/24/2010 11:59:37 AM PDT by Pit1 (Conservatives talk should be JOBS JOBS JOB. Mosque is a diversion by dems.)
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