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To: RachelFaith
"But the OldDeckHand, he is right. We LOST"

I would just add this caveat, "we lost" for the foreseeable future. who knows what the future holds 40-60 years down the road (or even less). In 1970, the conventional wisdom was that abortion would be the law of the land forever.

Things change. And, while there are still abortions, there are fewer of them and you can begin to see the light at the end of the tunnel. And this is underscored with how young people view abortion compared to their parents. For the first time - perhaps in the history of the Republic - the youthful generation is more conservative on an issue than their parents. More young people believe abortion is wrong, than believe abortion is right. Just like the writing is on the wall for homosexual marriage, it's also on the wall for the end of abortion.

Eventually, after a protracted period of failure, you could see the prevailing opinion turn back to traditional families and traditional marriage.

107 posted on 08/27/2010 10:07:13 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

As a potential, sure.

As a reality, from the same hard cold logic of your main post?

No.

From the objective lessons of history?

No.

No nation which did embrace sodomy, ever recovered.

Here is why: The Word of God is very specific when it comes to Sodomy. It speaks of it, vastly different than murder, theft, adultery, fornication. All those sins, you repent, and you are restored. David, Moses, murderers. Solomon, Fornicator. But the Sodomite, is blinded by lust. Blinded by a driving deed. So much so that God Himself says He will “give them over to do that thing”. God never gives up on a murderer, but He will wipe His hands and walk away from those who defile themselves in such manner. Their very mind, soul, lost. Self deceived, to the point of “no longer retaining the very knowledge of God”.

My FRiend, once we cross that line, and I agree with you, we ARE going to cross it.

This nation is DONE!

We may, by some force, power, providence, remake a new nation, but this one, this constitution, this government, this way of life, OVER!!


108 posted on 08/27/2010 10:18:43 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: OldDeckHand

I think you’re flat out wrong. I don’t believe Kennedy will compound the astounding stupidity of Roe v. Wade with a decision of the same endlessly contentious effect. Upholding Proposition 8 will NOT mean the end of homosexual marriage in America. Kennedy can realize his misguided “progressive” dream of homosexual marriage by upholding Proposition 8 and allowing the states to decide the issue politically within their respective legislatures. Or, he might just vote to void the lower court-ruling and send it back for Judge Vaughn to start all over again. Either outcome is more likely than another Roe v. Wade result.


109 posted on 08/27/2010 10:24:21 PM PDT by behzinlea
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