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What part of ‘civilian control’ did you miss, Marine?
Stl today ^ | 8/26/10 | Editorial Board

Posted on 08/26/2010 7:28:23 PM PDT by Nachum

On Tuesday, lacking even the excuse that a Rolling Stone reporter tricked him, another top U.S. military commander thumbed his nose at President Barack Obama's policies in Afghanistan.

Marine Corps Commandant James T. Conway, 62, Tuesday told a roomful of reporters at the Pentagon that Mr. Obama's July 2011 deadline for beginning troop withdrawals from Afghanistan is "probably giving our enemy sustenance.... We've intercepted communications that say, ‘Hey, you know, we only have to hold out for so long.'"

Gen. Conway went on to say that Mr. Obama was no doubt "talking to several audiences" when he announced the July 2011 deadline, suggesting that the president may have being coy when he outlined his Afghanistan policy in a speech at West Point last December.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


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Who are going to get to fight the war for you?
1 posted on 08/26/2010 7:28:25 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

The truth hurts doesn’t it bi-otch.


2 posted on 08/26/2010 7:30:11 PM PDT by keat
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To: Nachum
You, go, Gen, Conway! Semper Fi and do or die!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
3 posted on 08/26/2010 7:31:50 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Nachum

Perhaps the editorial needs to be taken to Afghanistan...and left on a high mountain outcropping.


4 posted on 08/26/2010 7:32:54 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Nachum

Perhaps the editorial board needs to be taken to Afghanistan...and left on a high mountain outcropping.


5 posted on 08/26/2010 7:33:33 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Nachum

I fail to see how a military commander being honest to media, is refusing orders, or threatening civilian control.

Since it continues to be amateur hour at the White House, maybe such commanders will help them get a grip, knowing this isn’t academic—and mens’ lives are at stake, not to mention our national interests now and in the far future.


6 posted on 08/26/2010 7:34:05 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Nachum
yes Civilian control... but that control was always assumed to be competent... not some affirmative action moron who wouldn't have even have gotten into college if it weren't for racial quotas
8 posted on 08/26/2010 7:35:04 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Nachum

Article 88 UCMJ is the controlling factor here. If Gen Conway has an issue, and he should, he must resign and voice his opinions then.When any general officer, particularly one who serves as a Chief questions POTUS publicly and is allowed to remain it weakens the office andcalls into question POTUS’s role as CiC.I’m not defending Obama but this is getting very very strange.


9 posted on 08/26/2010 7:35:55 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Nachum

Back in 2004 I said that as long as there was one Iraqi left who could give the US the finger as they left back to the States that this one Iraqi would be hailed as the Lion of Fallujah (or where ever) who drove the US out of Iraq.

And I still believe it today.


10 posted on 08/26/2010 7:36:25 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Nachum

He’s still following orders from the Community-Organizer-in-Chief, as one would expect from a Marine. He’s just trying to get a vital message to the socialist in our White House. Since the moron he works for doesn’t listen to people in uniform, he’s using the media to relay the message. Obama has handlers who listen to the media for him. There is no threat to civilian control here, just a Marine Corps general displaying appropriate loyalty to his men.


11 posted on 08/26/2010 7:38:28 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: xkaydet65

True enough, but that’s not exactly the tone of this revolting article.


12 posted on 08/26/2010 7:38:51 PM PDT by keat
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To: xkaydet65
it weakens the office and calls into question POTUS’s role as CiC.I’m not defending Obama but this is getting very very strange.

Very true. And these men know it better than we do. Obama must be putting a lot of men in harms way. The generals are throwing down the gauntlet. This could get ugly. Fast.

13 posted on 08/26/2010 7:39:36 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: miele man

I like yours better...


14 posted on 08/26/2010 7:41:44 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: mastervisa
"These Marine commanders are sick of this idiot President. The whole general staff is disrespecting omama. General McCrystal was willing to resign. It is the lowest morale ever."

I believe that if the Generals and Admirals don't get relief at the ballot box by Nov 2012, there will be a coup.

15 posted on 08/26/2010 7:44:11 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Nachum

Punk journalism.


16 posted on 08/26/2010 7:44:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: xkaydet65

I think Gen Conway is retiring at the end of the year.


17 posted on 08/26/2010 7:45:07 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Nachum
From the article :

Wobbly. Please. Nine years and $327 billion into the war and the Marine commandant is quoting a lance corporal about going wobbly. Twenty- or 21-year-old lance corporals can think like that, but 62-year-old generals are supposed to have a better grasp of political reality.

Maybe the country is going "wobbly" because it has come to realize that this is a tribal war for nationhood fought by guerrillas who don't think like U.S. troops.

Maybe the country is going "wobbly" because it keeps hearing about our loyal ally, Afghan President Hamid Karzai, releasing his cronies from jail, where they had been tossed for corruption.

Maybe we can do the math and see the attrition rate from the Afghan security forces that we're spending billions to train is something on the order of 50 percent. Marines don't see lost causes. Other Americans do.

America owes Gen. Conway its thanks for his 40 years of service. It's too bad he chose to end it like this.

Screw the St. Louis Today website. There isn't anyone any of the scum on the "editorial" staff of that joke organization worthy to lick camel dung off the Commandants' boots.

Gen. Conway, Semper Fi, Sir.

18 posted on 08/26/2010 7:46:28 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is already insane and sequestered on golf courses or vacations so you won't know it)
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To: Eagle Eye

you are exactly right. Sadaam was given a hero’s welcome in IRAQ after he got his ass kicked in the 1st Gulf War....for standing up to the “Great Satan”.


19 posted on 08/26/2010 7:50:10 PM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: Rashputin
"Gen. Conway, Semper Fi, Sir. "

Yes, the General is doing this nation, and this pice of sh!t President a great service by telling the truth...on his way out the door.

He's retiring in a month or two, already announced.

20 posted on 08/26/2010 7:52:34 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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