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Over at the Washington Post, in the comments section, "Brad" sums it up nicely
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Posted on 08/27/2010 7:06:17 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: marktwain
"Conservatives may shout this from the rooftops all they want, but most people will not hear it because it is spiked by the MSM."

BINGO, Nailed It, Post-of-the-day, and Bumpworthy!

Also note tagline.

41 posted on 08/27/2010 8:52:53 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Mr. K
Maybe that is why I could not find anything. I thought the lawsuit was filed, but perhaps the threat of the lawsuit caused the banks to change their practices.

It would make sense if Fannie was picking up the risk for the bad loans.

42 posted on 08/27/2010 8:58:13 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Michael.SF.
You might be thinking of a Citibank lawsuit shakedown filed by Zero himself on behalf of ACORN, one of the few things he actually did as an attorney.
43 posted on 08/27/2010 9:01:12 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: cycle of discernment

By the time the Bush administration rolled around, it was already too late. A major domino in the chain of events that helped precipitate the crisis — the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 — had already fallen in the late 1990s. In fact, it was the Republican Congress that passed the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999.


44 posted on 08/27/2010 9:18:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: okie01
“And, if the cries for reform were so strong, why didn't the GOP majority ever make Fannie and Freddie the major issue they should’ve been?”

Simple. We were in the middle of two wars. The Republican administration had to buy off the Democrats in order to fund the wars. The Democrats held the country hostage for their own political gain.

45 posted on 08/27/2010 9:18:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

And because the GOP is equally complicit. Seems to me that between Carter passing the CRA and the mortgage crisis of 2007-08, there were a few Republican presidents and Congresses that did little, if anything, to turn things around. Let’s not bury our heads in the sand and try to claim that the GOP is entirely without fault.


46 posted on 08/27/2010 9:24:39 AM PDT by Wallop the Cat
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To: Rennes Templar
That's exactly the point. The lower interest rates helped create an illusion of a strong housing market -- because housing affordability is generally determined by the monthly cost, not the actual price.

Suppose I could afford to make monthly mortgage payments of around $2,800 on a home ten years ago. If the mortgage term is 15 years and the rate is 8%, I could afford a mortgage of about $280,000 or so.

If you can afford the same monthly payments today but the term is 30 years and the rate is 5%, then you can afford about a $500,000 mortgage with the same monthly payment.

Did the price of the home go up by $220,000 because of normal economic factors of supply and demand? No. The price went up by $220,000 because the terms of your financing made it that way. This $220,000 figure showed up in the my pocket when the house was sold to you -- and then there was the "ripple effect" of realtor commissions, secondary economic benefits, positive impact on GDP figures, etc. And it was all just an illusion.

47 posted on 08/27/2010 9:32:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Rennes Templar
[Why the GOP hasn’t been shouting this from the rooftops is beyond me.]



Best Rats and RINOs money could buy...
48 posted on 08/27/2010 9:33:19 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Alberta's Child
[By the time the Bush administration rolled around, it was already too late.]



Roland Arnall - "Godfather of Subprime" - and Bush Ambassador to the Netherlands.
49 posted on 08/27/2010 9:37:40 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: mriguy67
For example Greenspan kept the int rates too low causing housing inflation, Bush himself said he wants everyone to be able to buy a house, so the subprime loans (which no democrat complained about) as well as below market int rates fed into the mess we have now.

Excellent points. But I'd also like to add that Greenspan kept rates so low because he was trying to counter the effect from his previously inverting the yield curve (keeping interest rates too high).

50 posted on 08/27/2010 9:41:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: cycle of discernment

ping


51 posted on 08/27/2010 9:44:15 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: oprahstheantichrist
That's the one!

Thank you. I did a quick google and found lots of information.

52 posted on 08/27/2010 10:10:00 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Alberta's Child
but the bank never has the option of renegotiating the terms of the loan if rates go UP.

That's because the Bank already got their money at a fixed rate when the loan was closed. Your analogy is akin to allowing the grocer to come to your house a week after you bought a chicken and demanding an extra 50 cents a pound because that's what he paid for it 3 days after you bought it.

53 posted on 08/27/2010 10:13:31 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: cycle of discernment
I understand what you're saying, and agree that the mortgage lending fiasco and the resulting financial fallout was instigated and implemented by Democrats.

My broader point really is that for a long time the GOP has done little to stem the tide of Democrat/socialist policies and protect us, finanially and otherwise. The GOP allowed Democrats to out-maneuver them many times over. The Bush administration repeatedly handed Democrats rhetorical victories. Elected Republicans tried to avoid the financial collapse - too little too late. Once Clinton put "the CRA on steroids" - elected Republicans knew full well what would happen. Even the NYT's in '99 lamented Clinton's policy.

and the dems always successfully painted the GOP as “mean” for wanting to put back in safeguarding regulations.

True, and the GOP surrendered repeatedly, because of this fear. Was it worth it? Shouldn't they have grown a spine and fought for us anyway?

You might not agree but I think elected Republicans could have done more (from '99 on) to avoid the collapse, or at least lessen its impact. imvho

54 posted on 08/27/2010 10:29:25 AM PDT by floozy22 (BO: Ten pounds of sh*t in a five pound bag.)
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To: Lurker

I’m not sure I understand exactly what you’re saying. If I sign a mortgage on a property for $250,000 with a bank, then the bank has a $250,000 asset on its books earning a specific rate of return. If that rate of return is fixed for 30 years, then it’s fixed for 30 years. Unless they sell the loan to a third party, they hold it for as long as it takes me to pay it off.


55 posted on 08/27/2010 10:34:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Note for clarification: The value of that asset will decline from $250,000 to $0 as the loan principal is paid off.


56 posted on 08/27/2010 10:35:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Alberta's Child
If that rate of return is fixed for 30 years, then it’s fixed for 30 years.

I believe you originally posted that the Bank never has the opportunity to increase the interest rate when 'rates' go up. I responded to that. You sign a contract at a fixed rate of interest in a traditional mortgage.

Maybe I misunderstood you. Do you think the Bank should be able to change that contractual arrangement for some reason?

57 posted on 08/27/2010 10:40:10 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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58 posted on 08/27/2010 10:42:45 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Lurker
Maybe I misunderstood you. Do you think the Bank should be able to change that contractual arrangement for some reason?

No, that's not what I'm suggesting.

I'm simply pointing out that if I sign a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at a rate of 10% and the prevailing long-term mortgage rates decline to 5%, I always have the option of refinancing the loan at the lower rate. But if I sign a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at a rate of 5% and the prevailing long-term mortgage rates increase to 10%, the bank cannot refinance the loan at the higher rate.

In other words, the "fixed" part of a fixed-rate mortgage only applies to the bank, since the borrower can always refinance the mortgage without paying a penalty.

59 posted on 08/27/2010 10:45:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Alberta's Child
But if I sign a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at a rate of 5% and the prevailing long-term mortgage rates increase to 10%, the bank cannot refinance the loan at the higher rate.

Correct. The Bank can not force you to renegotiate your contract.

In other words, the "fixed" part of a fixed-rate mortgage only applies to the bank, since the borrower can always refinance the mortgage without paying a penalty.

In which case the Bank gets all of it's money plus the interest that's been paid during the course of the loan. The Bank isn't harmed in the least. In fact they've made a tidy little profit as the interest is front loaded into mortgage loans.

60 posted on 08/27/2010 11:06:57 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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