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To: Publius

Well thank you for being so gracious. You’re not confused, I am. I got my Constitutional Convention arguments mixed up. Here is what the constitution said,

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

I don’t know* the portion of states that used a popular vote as the “Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct” but it wasn’t zero, I think. Of course, it quickly became per the popular vote with the possible exception of Massachusetts today.

I will defend my befuddled thinking by saying that the framers did intend the President to be popularly elected but apparently that intention was compromised upon.

* - Okay, I Googled this:

An early method of choosing electors was selection by the state legislature. A majority of the states legislatively selected presidential electors in both 1792 and 1800, and half of the states did so in 1812.[51] One reason most U.S. history textbooks don’t start reporting the national aggregate popular vote until the election of 1824 is because more than a quarter of all the states used legislative choice in all prior elections; there simply was no popular vote for President in those states. Even in 1824, when Andrew Jackson lost in spite of having pluralities of both the popular and electoral votes, a full quarter of the states (6 of 24) did not hold popular elections for President and Vice President;[52] instead, those six state legislatures choose the electors that year. By 1828, only Delaware and South Carolina continued to use legislative choice.[52]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

“More than a quarter” - I would assume this means less than a half and probably less than a third.


11 posted on 08/30/2010 8:28:07 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
You're still a little bit confused. I've defined the issue quite sharply in the essay about the Electoral College that accompanies this paper. Please read it.

You'll also like the essay on the election of senators that accompanies this paper. It puts the reasons behind the 17th Amendment in perspective.

12 posted on 08/30/2010 8:31:30 PM PDT by Publius (Unless the Constitution is followed, it is simply a piece of paper.)
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