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To: ModelBreaker
So seeing people happily getting stoned and driving 15 mph is not really a positive in a conservative worldview even though it may warm LP hearts.

That's why we have traffic cops. Maybe they can focus on impaired drivers, regardless of which drug is causing the impairment; instead of chasing down alert, vigilant "speeders" going 70 in a 55 on a road designed for 80.

Our society needs far fewer people who have thoughts like that or we will not survive.

If people can destroy themselves legally, be it via alcohol, tobacco, pot, coke, or heroin purchased at the local Walgreens, then perhaps they'll die young and won't have as many children?

12 posted on 08/31/2010 11:44:27 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

I understand your arguments; but they don’t really address what I said. You made a tactical, “move to legalization slowly with MJ so people see how good it is” argument. I responded that argument doesn’t work very well to get conservatives on board because MJ legalization does little or nothing for the biggest plus of legalization for conservatives—hurting organized crime.

It’s not a plus for conservatives that cops can arrest people driving stoned or that stoners will die young.

So I go back to my original position: if drugs are to be legalized, the only way it makes sense is to go whole hog—MJ, C, H and Meth. And I mean whole hog—that means legalize sale and use; if you just legalize use, supply stays down and demand goes up which the druglords love.

That is the only way to have some good come out of legalization to balance the bad. Even then, as I said before, I waver but am not convinced.


16 posted on 08/31/2010 8:57:50 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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