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US Departments of Labor and Treasury Schedule Hearing on Confiscation of Private Retirement Accounts
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Posted on 09/01/2010 5:56:28 PM PDT by Orange1998

On August 26, the US Department of Labor issued a news release It lists the agenda for the joint hearings being held with the Department of Treasury September 14-15, 2010 on what is euphemistically called “lifetime income options for retirement plans.” The hearings are being conducted by the Labor Department’s Employee Benefits Security Administration.

I don’t like speaking in tabloid-style terms, but the unstated agenda of these hearings, as I understand it, is to push for the US government to eventually nationalize (confiscate) all assets in private Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs) and 401K plans!

The US government is desperate to get its hands on private assets to help cover soaring budget deficits and debts, and this is simply the largest and easiest piggy bank that could be seized. The Investment Company Institute estimates that at the end of 2008 that there were $3.613 trillion of assets in IRAs and $2.350 trillion of assets in 401K plans.

For more than the past ten years, I have warned readers that the US government was eventually going to go after private retirement accounts. I considered that as the most important reason to avoid establishing precious metals IRAs. Very few other writers (Ron Holland being one) have picked up on this issue as early as I did. In fact, the mainstream media pretty much ignored the subject even after a House Committee held hearings on the issue in October 2008.

Obviously, an outright seizure of assets would meet stiff resistance from the public. So the confiscation will never be described as such by government officials. Expect to see terms such as “retirement income protection” thrown around. It is highly likely that such a program would be implemented in steps to help overcome public opposition.

The US government plan is to eventually take ownership of all assets in IRAs and 401K accounts and replace them with US government “Treasury Retirement Bonds.” In the October 2008 hearings, it was proposed that these bonds pay a 3% interest rate. Another major change is that, upon retirement, the individual’s retirement account would be converted into an annuity. Once the individual is deceased, the individual’s heirs would not inherit anything (similar to what happens now with Social Security “accounts”).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; pensions; retirement; savings
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Once the individual is deceased, the individual’s heirs would not inherit anything (similar to what happens now with Social Security “accounts”).

WTF

1 posted on 09/01/2010 5:56:30 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

This may wake a few people up!


2 posted on 09/01/2010 5:57:58 PM PDT by Conservative9
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To: Orange1998

I cannot think of a policy that will more quickly induce people to quit investing in IRA’s and other retirement accounts.


3 posted on 09/01/2010 5:59:04 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Conservative9

They try that crap and I fear a lot of people are going to get killed!


6 posted on 09/01/2010 5:59:42 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Conservative9

If the dumbass in the White House was looking for a way to start CWII, he’s found it.


7 posted on 09/01/2010 6:00:45 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: mastervisa
too bad they lost power.

What makes you think they've lost power?

8 posted on 09/01/2010 6:00:53 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Orange1998; All
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9 posted on 09/01/2010 6:01:40 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Orange1998

I hate this administration with a passion, they are pushing people over the edge.


10 posted on 09/01/2010 6:03:02 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Orange1998
The US government plan is to eventually take ownership of all assets in IRAs and 401K accounts and replace them with US government “Treasury Retirement Bonds.” In the October 2008 hearings, it was proposed that these bonds pay a 3% interest rate. Another major change is that, upon retirement, the individual’s retirement account would be converted into an annuity. Once the individual is deceased, the individual’s heirs would not inherit anything (similar to what happens now with Social Security “accounts”).

The machinations of collectivist/totalitarians. The author didn't even mention wealth-draining, asset-robbing Socialist Health Care.

11 posted on 09/01/2010 6:03:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Orange1998

I’ve had a hunch this would happen for years.

They’ll claim that it is “just too expensive.”


12 posted on 09/01/2010 6:03:41 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: mastervisa

20%, I’d cut it by 50%, to start.


13 posted on 09/01/2010 6:03:43 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: WellyP
They try that crap and I fear a lot of people are going to get killed!

Happens every time millions of people have nothing left to lose. It's just History.

14 posted on 09/01/2010 6:04:44 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (CNN:AP:etc:Today, President Obama's stool was firm and well-formed. One end was slightly pointed. ")
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To: Orange1998
Oh, for crying out loud. Not again.

The government is not proposing to confiscate your IRA/401(k).

This proposal is about providing the account holder the OPTION to convert it into a lifetime annuity. Some 401(k) administrators already offer this option, but it is not required.

There is also a proposal to include an estimate of the lifetime monthly income that your current account balance would provide, if you were to retire at that moment and in the future at the normal retirement age. This is intended to give people the ability to figure out where they stand, and whether they need to save more/less.

There are many annuity options, including a fixed term, lifetime, and even lifetime with a guaranteed term. The last one might be something like: lifetime, but guaranteed for 20 years to your heirs if you die within 20 years.

Would everyone please stop hyperventilating over this? This is nothing but a blogger trying to get you stirred up and send more people to view his blog.

15 posted on 09/01/2010 6:05:20 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Orange1998

Well, is about two years since I stopped this ‘easy candy’ for the scum bags.
Remember Argentina circa 2000:
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/


16 posted on 09/01/2010 6:06:18 PM PDT by elpinta (Jer. 10:23)
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To: Conservative9

I seriously doubt it will add very many to the number who are aware and alarmed about what is happening. Most don’t have anywhere close to enough to get them by and think this would be a bailout.

If you’ve spend decades saving and planning for a “comfortable” retirement and do not have it invested in cash flow producing assets or maybe precious metals... kiss your retirement good-by... no way to compensate for the inflation that is coming.

BOHICA almost all of us are screwed with no way to recover.


17 posted on 09/01/2010 6:07:12 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Orange1998

I wonder what happened to the Fourth Amendment. I know since Kelo things have gone a bit haywire, but to actually allow the govt. to seize private property for their own use, that is going a bit far. I think if they are allowed to do this, we need to scrub the filth out of every piece of the govt because the founding Fathers would never recognize this country if they were able to see it again.


18 posted on 09/01/2010 6:07:16 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Truthsearcher

Sounds about right.


19 posted on 09/01/2010 6:07:39 PM PDT by Conservative9
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To: WellyP

That was my first thought.


20 posted on 09/01/2010 6:08:18 PM PDT by Conservative9
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