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Judge to Lakin: Find another defense Rules that officer challenging Obama's eligibility...
WND ^ | 9/02/10 | By Thom Redmond

Posted on 09/03/2010 5:39:48 AM PDT by blueyon

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21 posted on 09/03/2010 6:33:09 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: blueyon
...that the chain of command led up to the Pentagon, and that should have been sufficient for Lakin.
And where does the Pentagon gets its orders from? Nowhere?

This next statement has got to be a joke!
She said opening up such evidence could be an "embarrassment" to the president, and it's up to Congress to call for impeachment of a sitting president.
I am completely aghast. One has nothing to do with the other. Either he qualifies as POTUS and his orders are legal or he doesn't which makes his orders illegal. Equating the two as the same thing isn't her responsibility.

Some day she may be embareassed for making such a stupid statement.

22 posted on 09/03/2010 6:34:31 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Smokeyblue

“Lind also says that authority stops with the Pentagon. So if the Pentagon accepts a usurper everyone else has to accept the usurper too, regardless of The Constitution.”

So, let me get this straight. The “Pentagon” is the Commander in Chief not the President?

How in the world have we sunk so low to have judges like this?

(hanging head and silently weeping..........)


23 posted on 09/03/2010 7:17:12 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: silverleaf; All
Everytime you see unreasonable coments by the lower court judge it is NOT because they are inept. Think of these comments, that are so out of line that even a layman knows they are not proper, as open invitations to submit the case to a higher court.

No lower court judge is going to expose the evidence because they know that BO has the legal authority to challenge any thing they order. These judge have no authority to remove him from office. (Think of the chaos that would ensue nationaly and internationally between time of a lower court decision and the final outcome from the SCOTUS, if the court lower court ruled against BO)

OTOH the judge may fill his orders with all sorts of “garbage” giving the plaintiff grounds to appeal the decision to the SCOTUS.

The military court is a branch of the federal court system.
It's final decision is with the SCOTUS.

The only Court that has the authority to make a decision not be appealed and order his removal is the SCOTUS. The two new members will be ordered to recluse themselves by the Chief Justice. They will NOT have a choice. So the final decision will be a seven member panel...My guess 7-0 if the material they request is delivered finds him not eligible..

24 posted on 09/03/2010 8:03:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Why would the SCOTUS see this case and not the others that they had a chance to rule on his eligibility?


25 posted on 09/03/2010 3:28:07 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The other cases were tabled. BUT they also had the wrong premise, wrong plaintiffs and wrong defendants.

One named the SOS from various states as the defendant. There is no where in their job description that they have been given power or authority to verify the eligibility of POTUS. That being said, they may be taken off the table and opinion can be rendered at any time.

26 posted on 09/03/2010 3:44:20 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The other cases were tabled. BUT they also had the wrong premise, wrong plaintiffs and wrong defendants.

One named the SOS from states as the defendant. There is no where in their job description that they have been given power or authority to verify the eligibilty of POTUS. That being said, the cases tabled may be taken off the table and opinion can be rendered at any time.

27 posted on 09/03/2010 3:58:17 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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The other cases were tabled. BUT they also had the wrong premise, wrong plaintiffs and wrong defendants.
One named the SOS from states as the defendant. There is no where in their job description that they have been given power or authority to verify the eligibilty of POTUS. That being said, the cases tabled may be taken off the table and opinion can be rendered at any time.


There is no such animal in the law as a “tabled” case.
When a plaintiff wants to have an appeal heard by the Supreme Court of the United States they submit a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari. That’s fancy legalese for “please accept my appeal.” It takes four justices to agree to grant a petition for a Writ of Certiorari (”OK, we’ll hear your appeal”).

Eight appeals challenging Obama’s eligibility have submitted Petitions for Writs of Certiorari. All eight have been denied, not tabled by the Supreme Court meaning they did not get the required four justices to agree to hear the appeal before the full court. Those eight denied appeals are: Berg v Obama, Beverly v FEC, Craig v US, Donofrio v Wells, Herbert v Obama, Lightfoot v Bowen, Schneller v Cortes and Wrotnowski v Bysiewicz.
When an appeal is denied, it’s dead.


28 posted on 09/03/2010 6:08:20 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: blueyon

Land, with all due respect, doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.

The whole “I was just doing my job” defense went out at Nuremburg.
Since that time, it is agreed and admitted that actions of soldiers must be lawful, IN EVERY RESPECT. And that includes having no doubts at all that his commander is exercising lawful authority.

If he follows the commands of his boss, but has doubts about whether or not his boss can/should do that, he is basically committing a crime.


29 posted on 09/03/2010 6:15:42 PM PDT by djf (They ain't "immigrants". They're "CRIMMIGRANTS"!!!!)
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To: silverleaf
An illegitmate potus cannot issue a legitimate order.

Obama did not issue an order to Lakin. His brigade commander and two other superior officers did.

30 posted on 09/03/2010 6:22:20 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: hoosiermama
Personally, I don’t think they will touch the case after what happened with Gore.
Even know they were correct with Gore the idiots that are brain washed don’t know that.

and the fact that Lakin didn't get the order directly from obama.

31 posted on 09/03/2010 7:23:44 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

The day of the GOre/Bush election my father who practiced law for over fifty years, has JAG experience, was first in his law class and had clerked in the federal court system gave a piece of paper to a local judge telling him what the chapter and paragraph were that the cases would be settled on and which jurist would vote for and against. He was 100 per cent correct.

Basically I’ve repeated what he’s telling me. I trust his judgment.


32 posted on 09/03/2010 8:17:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: djf

The standard set at Nuerenburg was that you could not obey an order that required the commitment of a crime. So, are you saying that obeying a deployment order to Afghanistan constitutes a crime? I think not.

Also, officers cannot disobey orders at will. If they fail to obey, they do so at their own peril. If the order that they disobeyed is found to be legal, then they will pay the price. LTC Lakin is about to learn what the word peril means.


33 posted on 09/03/2010 8:22:42 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Steve Van Doorn

The day of the GOre/Bush election my father who practiced law for over fifty years, has JAG experience, was first in his law class and had clerked in the federal court system gave a piece of paper to a local judge telling him what the chapter and paragraph were that the cases would be settled on and which jurist would vote for and against. He was 100 per cent correct.

Basically I’ve repeated what he’s telling me. I trust his judgment.


34 posted on 09/03/2010 8:32:28 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: NCC-1701

When it is the POTUS, it isn’t fraud. it is treason.

We have a proper punishment.

But - as with most liars - it starts small, then builds and builds. Right now - we are at a popint where - we don’t know who is father is, question where he was born, how h got into school test scores, grades, etc. He claims to be an author - but has no history of passion for writing - no failures, no writing when given prime opportunity - a la harvard Law.

He lets his handlers present him as genius - but any test score would establish it. He tells us he is a Christian - yet took a Muslim name, and has actively promoted Muslim agenda for decades.

I don’t think every piece of data on his background could be that damning. I think he is just a paranoid narcisist, brought on by being abandoned by his parents - 2 dads and a mom, while having his head full of wacko mush.

He is protected by his skin color - which is why he retreats to that defense every time. it is his magic cloak.

The reality is - he is a liar, and is frightened now that any string gets pulled, the whole house of cards will come down.


35 posted on 09/05/2010 9:43:45 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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