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Schmidt: Gay Marriage Now a Conservative Cause [retread ZOT!]
Frum Forum ^ | 8/31/10

Posted on 09/03/2010 10:22:09 AM PDT by BitterKlingon

Former McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt tells Sam Stein of the Huffington Post why gay marriage is now a conservative cause:

"There is a strong conservative case to be made in favor of gay marriage," former McCain campaign manager and fellow same-sex marriage fundraiser Steve Schmidt told the Huffington Post on Tuesday. "Marriage is an institution that strengthens and stabilizes society. It is an institution that has the capacity to bring profound joy and happiness to people and it is a matter of equality and keeping faith of one of the charters of the nation, the right to live your life.

"More and more conservatives are saying that opposition to gay marriage would not be a litmus test for membership in the GOP," Schmidt added. "And more conservatives are making the case that no more do you want big government conservatives in the bedroom than big government liberals telling you how to live your life."

To be sure, the Mehlman fundraiser is not entirely a Republican-driven affair. Some of the big names on the ticket are Democrats, including former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt and former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta.

But reading through the list of attendees, it's remarkable to see how many prominent conservatives are not just comfortable associating with the gay-rights cause but are eager to fundraise for it. Pair that with rumblings from elsewhere in the party (most notably from Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels) that conservatives should have a "truce" on social issues for the time being and the frictions within the GOP tent become even more apparent.

If anything, the hostility between the social conservative element of the party and those less adherent to that doctrine is already palpable. As one prominent Republican who supports gay rights put it:

"I think there is a growing mass of people in Republican politics who are fundamentally sick and tired about being lectured to about morality and how to live your life by a bunch of people who have been married three or four times and are more likely to be seen outside a brothel on a Thursday night than being at home with their kids... There is a fundamental indecency to the vitriol and the hatred directed against decent people because of their sexuality. People have reached a critical mass with this."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amoralhounddogs; conservatives; homosexualagenda; journolist; marriage; schmidt; steveschmidt; victorkilo; vikingkitties; zort; zortzot; zot; zuluoscartango
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While I don't put all that much stock in the opinions of Steve Schmidt (if he's so smart, why isn't John McCain President?), there is a good point in that last paragraph. If the GOP wants to have any credibility on "morality" issues, they need to purge the party of characters like Newt Gingrich and David Vitter (who are obvious targets of those references to "people who have been married three or four times" and "are more likely to be seen outside a brothel on a Thursday night than being at home with their kids").
1 posted on 09/03/2010 10:22:09 AM PDT by BitterKlingon
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To: BitterKlingon

No wonder why McCain lost and Sarah Palin did not agree with the campaign on most issues....with friends like that, who needs enemies. The GOP will stand firmly against gay marriage.


2 posted on 09/03/2010 10:45:53 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: BitterKlingon
Steve Schmidt and his cabal of social liberals need to leave the GOP.
3 posted on 09/03/2010 10:46:16 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: BitterKlingon

Conservative case: 1) It violates over 5,000 continuous years of law and tradition in all cultures worldwide. 2) It violates the word and spirit of scripture.

Yah. Let’s go for it. What could tampering with marriage, family and scripture hurt?


4 posted on 09/03/2010 10:46:26 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: BitterKlingon

Sorry but no we do not have to treat the issue of marriage or divorce in regards to normal people who have normal heterosexual relationships any differently just to prove that we have credibility in regards to morality and how we view the corrupt and perverse acts of homosexuality.

There is nothing conservative about promoting the total perversion of our society in regards to corruption that is homosexuality. It is a litmus test for me in regards to who is a conservative and who is not.


5 posted on 09/03/2010 10:49:52 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: BitterKlingon
"There is a strong conservative case to be made in favor of gay marriage,"

First let's hear the strong conservative case to made for marriage, and how homosexuals cannot be "married" since marriage is a word that describes A relationship between persons that are male and female.

6 posted on 09/03/2010 10:52:34 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: BitterKlingon
Schmidt: Gay Marriage Now a Conservative RINO/Beltway GOP/progressive mole Cause
7 posted on 09/03/2010 11:15:31 AM PDT by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I do object to them stewing me in their juices.)
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To: BitterKlingon

what a failure he is.


8 posted on 09/03/2010 11:16:45 AM PDT by dalebert (true hillbilly)
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To: BitterKlingon

Didn’t this bowling ball do enough damage in the last election? He needs to go into hybernation.


9 posted on 09/03/2010 11:16:57 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: BitterKlingon

McCain is a Republican. So is Romney. So what’s a Democrat?


10 posted on 09/03/2010 11:19:40 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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This is the genius who ran the McCain campaign. Is it any wonder we lost?

And given that they're now trying to make it look like the GOP is pro-homo (an unpopular stance with the majority of voters) two months before an election, I would say that the Stupid Party has a mole problem.

Time to start playing whack-a-mole with these creeps.
11 posted on 09/03/2010 11:20:51 AM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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Let's get this straight right now.

McCain people and Bush people, like Ari Fleishman, who said he hopes the Hose Republicans fall one member short of the taking the majority in November,

DO NOT SPEAK FOR REPUBLICANS!

12 posted on 09/03/2010 11:23:31 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Blue Turtle

What an utter debauchery of what conservatism is.

If this country embraces and enshrines sexual depravity as worthy of recognition via marriage, in my view the war is lost.

A nation that has become morally depraved cannot be salvaged via “tax cuts,” “limited government,” or “strong national defense.” America is great because America is good.


13 posted on 09/03/2010 11:24:33 AM PDT by Elpasser
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I don’t understand why this is suddenly even coming up. We had ONE Republican come out of the closet this week and suddenly we are on the gay marriage train? I don’t think this is accurate.


14 posted on 09/03/2010 11:46:53 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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It seems to me that the “mainline” GOP is being pulled by two forces here:

1) Infiltration of social liberals
2) Prognosticators telling them that gay marriage is an inevitable reality - whether now, or under a liberal majority Supreme Court down the road.

So, there are the true believers, and the politicos who want to harvest votes at any cost. And if they believe the public attitude is eventually going to make this issue “no big deal”, then we’re going to see more and more of these recommendations. The schism has already begun however.


15 posted on 09/03/2010 11:48:29 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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Oh it pisses me off big time that Senator Vitter did not have a candidate who could beat him. It is sad that this trash will win the senate seat again. He could be completely conservative but he does not obey his vows. This year especially we could have taken him out with a tea party candidate and true conservative. Severe missed opportunity. We are stuck with him though.


16 posted on 09/03/2010 11:49:44 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TheBigIf

There is nothing conservative about promoting the total perversion of our society in regards to corruption that is homosexuality. It is a litmus test for me in regards to who is a conservative and who is not.

There is nothing conservative about cheating on your wife either. We need to get serious family values candidates ASAP or we are going to be in trouble one day.


17 posted on 09/03/2010 11:55:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Antoninus

Sarah hater Schmidt’s opinion and advice is so damn valuable that he had to go to the Huffington-Puffington Post to find a publisher. LOL.

He’s never been a conservative, and you’re right: He needs to be drummed-out of the party and others like him need to be exposed and outed immediately.


18 posted on 09/03/2010 11:55:51 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: BitterKlingon

Gay “marriage” is about all it’ll take to shove this country down the poop hole.


19 posted on 09/03/2010 11:56:41 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: BitterKlingon

Steve Schmidt sabotaged Sarah Palin during the campaign. He’s a POS.


20 posted on 09/03/2010 12:07:45 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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