Posted on 09/05/2010 5:43:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
Democracy, Whiskey, Sexy, Redux: based on recent polling numbers, Iraqis want American soldiers to stay in their country more than the Americans do.
According to the latest CBS poll, nearly 70 percent of Americans approve of President Obamas decision to withdraw all combat troops from Iraq. In a remarkable turnaround, the Iraqis are the bigger opponents of the presidents plan. Iraqis want American soldiers to stay in their country more than Americans do.
A new poll by an Iraqi company found that nearly 60 percent feel it is the wrong time for U.S. soldiers to leave and 53 percent oppose President Obamas ending of the combat mission. A little more than half believe the withdrawal will hurt the country and only one-fourth view the development positively. And in a statistic that is sure to bother those that boast of Obamas worldwide popularity, nearly 42 percent feel the president does not care about the situation in Iraq.
Back in September 2006, the year when Iraq nearly fell to civil war, 71 percent of Iraqis wanted U.S. forces to leave their country in a year or less. There was a widespread perception that U.S. soldiers were the ones responsible for their misery. Most disturbingly, 61 percent of Iraqis felt attacks on U.S. soldiers were legitimate, a 14 percent increase from the beginning of 2006. But by March 2008, only 38 percent wanted U.S. forces to leave immediately and a majority wanted them to stay until the country was secured.
What happened? The surge is what happened. Contrary to what opponents of the surge said, the increased presence and aggressiveness of U.S. forces did not trigger a popular backlash because security visibly improved. The increased exposure to American forces likely also led to a certain degree of affection and respect as the anti-American myths were busted by reality.
The Iraqi anger against U.S. forces wasnt inevitable. It was based on the fact that they were equated with occupation and anguish. Iraqis’ bitterness increased over the years as they assumed America was capable of getting their electricity working and providing them with safety but simply didnt care to and therefore must have ulterior motives for being in Iraq. American soldiers were thus seen as the sources of instability.
When the surge brought security, a better working relationship with Iraqi citizens, and political and economic progress, their opinion turned around. This same dynamic seems to be happening in Afghanistan today. And now they want us there more than we want to be there.
A small, unrepresentative sampling of Iraqis from different areas of the country by the New York Times shows that many Iraqis are concerned and even feeling betrayed. And what they said indicates that President Obama can expect his approval rating to drop even faster in Iraq than it is in the United States.
Not hearing Obama talking about Iran and their influence in Iraq makes us believe that America has sold us to Iran, said Marwan Ahmed of Baghdads Sunni Adhamiya neighborhood.
Obama has already lost the support of those who feel the withdrawal is happening too soon, but he is going to lose even more as the perception grows that the U.S. is abandoning the country to Iran. Only 18 percent of Iraqs Shiites, the sect most favorable to Iran, look positively upon Tehrans role in their country. During the last election, the pro-Iran religious parties were massacred.
The victory of Iyad Allawi shows that one of the primary concerns of Iraqis is preventing their country from being dominated by Iran, whose regime is often blamed for the sectarian strife they are all fed up with. Yet there was no reassurance on this issue given in President Obamas speech. Indeed, Iran was not even mentioned. Neither was Syria, whose officials Iraq sought to prosecute in a UN tribunal until it became clear the Obama administration wouldnt support it.
The recent statement by Vice President Biden that Iranian influence in Iraq is minimal, followed by Ambassador Jeffreys remarks to the same effect (while at the same time estimating that one-fourth of U.S. casualties have been due to Iranian-backed groups) will only further convince Iraqis that the U.S. either doesnt get it or doesnt care. The Obama administration is trying to pre-empt critics who will say their policies are throwing Iraq to the wolves but in so doing will convince Iraqis that thats exactly whats happening.
Allawi and Prime Minister al-Maliki have unfortunately been unable to come to a compromise for a unity government as both want to be prime minister. Allawi now says that the U.S. is not supporting him because the Obama administration wants a government that is acceptable to Iran. Despite public reassurances to the contrary, this is an admission that Iran has significant say over Iraqs future and a sign that the Obama administration naively believes our interests coincide and some sort of understanding can be reached.
The president believes taking a softer tone towards Iran will build support for the U.S. and improve our image, but Iraq is one place where it wont work. It is fortunate that Iraqi public opinion has turned around in our favor, but if we are seen as leaving hastily and submitting to Iran, it will quickly reverse back to where it was. It was wise of President Obama to reiterate his commitment to the future of Iraq, but Iraqis will not believe him if they see Iran being catered to or an Iraqi government come to power that is hamstrung by Irans proxies. They will again see the U.S. as the party responsible for their desires being dashed; as being too uncaring, naïve, and/or weak to protect them from an Iran that is responsible for spilling both American and Iraqi blood. And theyll be right.
Sold them to Iran? Yes, and he’s busy plundering & selling out his own nation too.
Well, a massive demonstration, with signs saying “Thank you, America, for helping the people of Iraq” might help. And a public “Thank you” to President Bush wouldn’t hurt either.
*Bump*
Indeed he does
The Bush plan for withdrawal had conditions, none of which Barry seems able to recall. It’s one more time that the dog ate the Democrat’s homework. At this point, it’s important to pay attention to the politics in America. Anything that sucks the story away from the complete incompetence and the destruction of the American Economy is good for the Democrats. If left to their record, we would ride them out on a rail.
Don’t hold your breath.
Most of the countries that we have liberated or defended would LOVE for the US to pay for their internal security in perpetuity.
South Korea is a rich enough nation to afford to pay for its own defense.We can’t afford to be the world’s police force
We need to get our troops out of all these little backwaters and deploy them on our southern boarder.
Seems to me, Mr. zero in the zero office, that we were/are at war with Iran in Iraq and Afghanistan.
FoxNews Report: Iran paying Taliban to kill US troops
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/05/report-iran-pays-taliban-kill-troops/
Remember Iran paid Al Qaeda to kill our troops in Iraq, so it should be no surprise that Iran pays the Taliban to kill our troops in Afganistan
As everything The Marxist Onada has done or failed to do, this posturing will backfire on the idiot. Just saying the American combat role in Iraq is over does not make it so.
Exactly
so much for defeating the infidel occupiers, inshallah!
to all the never-satisfied arabs siting around tea shops whining about morally inferior nonmuslim westerners causing all the world’s troubles including yours. Everything is a conspiracy against you.
You played the western media, and the western political left. You applauded publicly or privately when idealistic Americans were savaged by your villagers setting iED’s.
Now you got what you demanded.
ululate that
They won't come right out and say this, but I'm sure they're wondering what went wrong with the country they admire so much that we would elect something like that.
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