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U.S. Plays Catch-Up on High-Speed Rail
The New York Times ^ | Sunday, September 5, 2010 | KATE GALBRAITH

Posted on 09/05/2010 12:29:40 PM PDT by Willie Green

AUSTIN, TEXAS — Spanish trains whisk passengers from Madrid to Barcelona in little more than two and one-half hours. Japan has bullet trains. China is building a vast network of high-speed rail routes, including the recently opened line between Guangzhou and Wuhan, which covers 1,070 kilometers at the world’s fastest average speed.

Soon, perhaps, the United States, with the world’s largest economy will also clamber on board. So far, the United States — in spite of or perhaps because of its vast size — has virtually no fast trains capable of moving swiftly enough over a long distance to compete with airplanes.

That could change over the next decade. President Barack Obama has declared high-speed rail to be a priority. He is interested, he has said, in “innovations that change the way we travel in America” through the creation of cleaner, energy-saving options. The economic stimulus package provided $8 billion toward the development of high-speed rail. Another $2.3 billion in government awards should be announced this autumn, using money from the budget.

Soon, the U.S. government will publish its first-ever national rail plan, laying out a vision for the future of freight and passenger rail. It is supposed to be released by Sept. 15, but a spokesman for the Federal Railroad Administration, Warren Flatau, said in an e-mail that Congress had recently requested an “additional level of specificity in the document,” and the agency is studying how to proceed to provide a thorough and timely report.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: transportation
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1 posted on 09/05/2010 12:29:45 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Private enterprise hasn’t done it yet because they don’t see it as profitable.

Government of course will do it because it’s more spending on something that will inevitably lose money every year.


2 posted on 09/05/2010 12:34:00 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Willie Green

You’re now reduced to quoting a New York Times article. That’s beyond sad. It’d be pitiable if it weren’t so downright evil.


3 posted on 09/05/2010 12:36:34 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Willie Green

I will ride a train when they pry my truck out of my cold dead hands!


4 posted on 09/05/2010 12:37:23 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Willie Green

It will of course be built by Big Brother with tax dollars confiscated from unwilling “donors.” The only winners will be labor unions, already drooling at the prospect of cost overruns, work delays and every other trick in the book.


5 posted on 09/05/2010 12:37:44 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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6 posted on 09/05/2010 12:42:17 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Willie Green

put your trains in the dustbin of history with horses, carts, and stagecoaches.

They are stupid inefficient and don’t come from where people are and don’t go to where want to go and if people change their minds where the want to go you can’t move your tracks without cost like AIRPLANES can!!!!


7 posted on 09/05/2010 12:47:16 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Willie Green
Going into high gear on this idea would put lots of people back to work, that is, if that is what you really want to do.
8 posted on 09/05/2010 12:49:47 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Willie Green
Waste of time.

Between the greenies' stranglehold on human activities, and the unions' stranglehold on the permanent escalation of costs vs. value, the status as a has-been for the U.S.A. makes this whole concept absurd.

In the 50s and 60s? Before egalitarian morons took over when the producers were busy creating, maybe.

Today ---- scary thought.

9 posted on 09/05/2010 12:50:03 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Willie Green
All you need to know about high speed rail in the USA, outside of a couple of urban hellholes, anyway.
10 posted on 09/05/2010 12:50:43 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Willie Green
So far, the United States — in spite of or perhaps because of its vast size — has virtually no fast trains capable of moving swiftly enough over a long distance to compete with airplanes

isn't the answer in there somewhere?

11 posted on 09/05/2010 12:52:34 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Going into high gear on this idea would put lots of people back to work, that is, if that is what you really want to do.

So would digging holes with shovels

12 posted on 09/05/2010 12:54:37 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Going into high gear on this idea would put lots of people back to work, that is, if that is what you really want to do.

So would digging holes with shovels

And, once the holes have been dug, even more people could be put back to work filling them in.

13 posted on 09/05/2010 12:58:06 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Willie Green

The NYT assumes high speed rail is desirable and then proceeds to propagandized based on that principle. The US is not Europe. For one thing it does not have the population density of Europe. Average trip lengths are much shorter in Europe. The NYT also assumes that government has unlimited resources with which to subsidize and distort ticket prices so as to create a favorable cost comparison with other modes of transportation. In fact, government should be prevented from even thinking of borrowing more money in our children’s name to finance any project that is not clearly economically “sustainable” on its own.


14 posted on 09/05/2010 1:02:26 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Bob

we’d be saving jobs by the millions


15 posted on 09/05/2010 1:06:08 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Bob
Or if you want to put people back to work at taxpayer expense, have them do something actually worthwhile.

A whiny La Raza type liberal wrote an article two posts above this one complaining about the Great Wall of America

Put people to work building a real one, rather than a mostly imaginary one.

16 posted on 09/05/2010 1:09:06 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Willie Green

“China is building a vast network of high-speed rail routes”
****
What a great idea. Let’s get some cheap Chinese labor to build railroads for us...and some 19th Century railroad barons to use the disposable labor to build some transcontinental tracks for us. /sarc


17 posted on 09/05/2010 1:09:58 PM PDT by peyton randolph (There is no such thing as moderate Islam)
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To: Willie Green
This is today's

Daily Willie Green Choo-Choo thread.

Promoting 19th Century technology for the 21st Century.

18 posted on 09/05/2010 1:12:09 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Willie Green
Economic planning, social planning and, yes even, transport ion planning lead to this road...


http://books.google.com/books?id=eTve6XEUbYIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+road+to+serfdom&hl=en&ei=X_WDTLrlHc_GswaooJjmCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

BTW I'm curious, do you have a fiduciary interest in this issue?

19 posted on 09/05/2010 1:12:39 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Willie Green

Europeans subsidize these trains with a 300% tax on gasoline. It would take ten dollar a gallon gas to pry Americans out of their cars and on to intercity trains. Not going to happen.


20 posted on 09/05/2010 1:15:50 PM PDT by Procyon (Tagline under construction)
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