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Backlash over China curb on metal exports (environmental rules give China 97% rare earth mineral)
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 29 Aug 2010 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 09/06/2010 11:33:14 AM PDT by goldendays

Backlash over China curb on metal exports China's draconian export curbs on rare earth minerals needed by the rest of the world for frontier technologies is escalating into a serious diplomatic and trade clash with the United States and other leading powers.

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor

Japan's foreign minister Katsuya Okada issued what amounted to a formal protest at top-level meeting with Chinese officials in Beijing over the weekend, saying the sudden cut-off was "affecting the global production chain". It is the latest sign of rising pressure after angry complaints by companies outside China that rely on this family of 17 metals for hybrid cars, mobile phones, superconductors, navigation, and a host of high-tech industries.

Lawrence Daly China's commerce minister Chen Deming said that Beijing would not back down over the export quotas. "Mass-extraction of rare earth will cause great damage to the environment, that's why China has tightened controls," he said, repeating the official line. Beijing set off shockwaves in early July when it announced a 72pc reduction in rare earth exports over the second half of this year.

The country has acquired a near monopoly, with 97pc of global output after under-cutting the rest of the world with Mongolian ores in the 1990s. The sudden cut-off since July has drastically restricted supplies to the rest of world. The last US mine shut 14 years ago, discouraged by tough US environmental rules.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; environmental; mineral; mines; mining; rare
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To: GAB-1955
I dont’ blame China at all, if the other nations of the world want these metal then they need to MINE in their own countries.

To me this is the same as California complaining that Texas wont sell them enough energy to prevent blackouts there during the summer. TUFF, build your OWN power plants in California if you want energy, build your own dams in California if you want water.

Maybe if California ran out of water and energy the environmental movement there could be killed once and for all.

But, as long as other states keep enabling them, they will continue to push their environmental agenda of death on the rest of us.

21 posted on 09/06/2010 12:03:52 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: GAB-1955

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22 posted on 09/06/2010 12:15:14 PM PDT by goldendays (that)
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To: goldendays
I suppose those rare earths include uranium and gold in particular?
23 posted on 09/06/2010 12:23:44 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: GAB-1955

OPEC 2 except with a much less diversified supply base. The left in its zeal to make us less dependent on foreign supplies of oil wants to make us even more dependent on rare earth metals. We are witnessing the predictable result of govenment control of a vital industry. Politicians have no stake in the result except for the next election. Even then, they have a host of scapegoats to blame for their ridiculous policies.


24 posted on 09/06/2010 12:33:39 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: goldendays

“Mass-extraction of rare earth will cause great damage to the environment, that’s why China has tightened controls,” he said, repeating the official line.

The last US mine shut 14 years ago, discouraged by tough US environmental rules.

LOL Good. We deserve it for caving to enviro natzis and other nuts.


25 posted on 09/06/2010 12:46:53 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: goldendays
I wonder if anybody has told George Soros that without rare earths, Obama's "green energy" excuse for seizing control of the automobile and offshore drilling industries crumbles overnight?

Without rare earth metals, you can't make batteries, electronics, solar cells, electric cars, windmills, nuclear reactors, handcuffs for dissidents...the list is almost endless.


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26 posted on 09/06/2010 12:52:29 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: The Comedian

gop and talk radio should jump on this


27 posted on 09/06/2010 2:04:03 PM PDT by goldendays (that)
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To: bill1952

Refusing to tariff their foreign competition was another major factor. Without a return to protectionism the level of foreign dependency will only continue until we are irreversibly screwed.


28 posted on 09/06/2010 4:02:47 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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To: goldendays
Lawrence Daly China's commerce minister Chen Deming said that Beijing would not back down over the export quotas. "Mass-extraction of rare earth will cause great damage to the environment, that's why China has tightened controls," he said, repeating the official line. Beijing set off shockwaves in early July when it announced a 72pc reduction in rare earth exports over the second half of this year.

Such an obvious move to keep the manufacture of rare-earth based components cheaper in China than anywhere else, and so further encourage Western companies to continue migrating their mfg & associated technology secrets to China.

As for Japan's protests, that's all for show. Japan and China have become quite good buddies as Eamon Fingleton in his book IN THE JAWS OF THE DRAGON has so clearly exposed. If you want to see how East Asia has manipulated free-traders to screw America over since the end of WW2, that's the book to read.

29 posted on 09/06/2010 4:11:28 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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To: goldendays
gop and talk radio should jump on this

I have high hopes that Beck will publicize this. It leads right to the multiple Democrat/Chinese arrangements that date back to the Clinton years and reach right into the White Hut.

The Michael Steele/John McCain Axis of Apathy and Vichy Bipartisanship, investigate their other half?

Hold not thy breath.


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30 posted on 09/06/2010 4:16:56 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: neutronsgalore
Refusing to tariff their foreign competition was another major factor. Without a return to protectionism the level of foreign dependency will only continue until we are irreversibly screwed.

That's right. Forcing American manufacturers to pay even more for rare, raw materials was the only strategic option . . . given that we were shutting our own mines down. /s

31 posted on 09/06/2010 4:42:10 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: neutronsgalore

They don’t pay the tax - we do.
100% - and those jobs were destroyed by insane union wage demands and endless EPA and other rules which made it too expensive to stay here.

I was a steelworker & I watched it happen.
You can tax foreign products 400% and it will not change a thing - the unfavorable business conditions here remain and unless they are removed, those businesses will never be back.
We have regulated industry right out of America.

And you want US to pay for the tariffs?? Sheesh!


32 posted on 09/06/2010 4:43:05 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: neutronsgalore
As for Japan's protests, that's all for show. Japan and China have become quite good buddies as Eamon Fingleton in his book IN THE JAWS OF THE DRAGON has so clearly exposed. If you want to see how East Asia has manipulated free-traders to screw America over since the end of WW2, that's the book to read.

Good book, I would also recommend the book "Mainline" written by Senator Malone of Nevada in 1958. He documented how we allowed the European mercury cartel to drive our mines out of business, and once they had a monopoly the price of mercury skyrocketed.
33 posted on 09/06/2010 5:04:08 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (My vote made a difference. Because of my vote an extra ballot in had to be stuffed in King County.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How is it that that is the only place on Earth that those minerals can be mined? No other substances are limited to one place, as far as I know.

Consider that there are other factors besides the presence of the material in mineable quantities.

I talked with a guy today who is importing frac sand (size graded quartz sand used to prop open the fractures generated during hydrofracking the pay horizons in an oil well). It costs less to ship it halfway around the world and 2000 miles from the nearest port than it does to dig up similar sand in the US.

The difference is in the regulatory hoops one must jump through to dig up sand here. Any mining operation in the US faces the same problems, and that is what shut down the last rare earth mineral mine in the US.

Sadly, at the core of that problem lies another: the people with the expertise needed to extract these minerals are in shorter supply than they used to be, and their diminishing numbers of would-be replacements aren't getting the vital OJT they will need to avoid reinventing the wheel if and when we restore our manufacturing economy.

34 posted on 09/06/2010 9:26:32 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 1rudeboy; fallujah-nuker
That's right. Forcing American manufacturers to pay even more for rare, raw materials was the only strategic option . . . given that we were shutting our own mines down. /s

They were shut down because they could not compete against subsidized foreign competition. Then, like how fallujah-nuker pointed out with regard to American mercury mines, once they were out of the way foreign suppliers were free to raise their prices as much as they wanted. They knew no one would go back to try re-investing in American rare-earth mines with such a high probability they would just be undercut again and lose their investment.

35 posted on 09/07/2010 11:43:19 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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To: bill1952; fallujah-nuker
And you want US to pay for the tariffs?? Sheesh!

The goods don't get in until the tariff is paid and the check clears. Whether the imported products sell or not. As for American's paying a higher price on imports as a result of tariffs, that has been the way of most of America's 200 years of history. It has been responsible for most of America's non-war related industrial & middle-class growth from 1800-1960. Tariffs, properly applied, make American farming, mining, and mfg the "go-first" source and counter-act foreign competition. If foreign govt intervention continues to compensate for the tariffs, then other tools used before in our history such as import quotas can also be put into effect.

Nobody ever said it was going to be easy. It's going to take about as long to un-screw this country as it took to get it screwed over. If you want to cheap your way to America's future destruction/subjugation then by all means continue supporting keeping our policies the way they are. But I suggest you make sure your children and grand-children learn Chinese. That way they'll have no problem understanding their future Chinese master's orders.

36 posted on 09/08/2010 12:01:22 AM PDT by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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To: neutronsgalore
They were shut down because they could not compete against subsidized foreign competition.

So our tariffs on Chinese rare-earths didn't work, then. And the EPA didn't hamstring the Mountain Pass operation. And the Chinese purchase of Magnequench (and nearly the purchase of Unocal) was inconsequential, according to CFIUS.

Yup, not our government's fault in the slightest. Just "subsidized foreign competition" to blame (in a market that has been reasonably stable over the past couple of decades).

37 posted on 09/08/2010 7:34:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Yup, not our government's fault in the slightest. Just "subsidized foreign competition" to blame (in a market that has been reasonably stable over the past couple of decades).

Of course it's our govt's fault! They set the trade policies, signed the trade treaties, and refused to take meaningful action against predatory activities by foreign corporations backed by their govts. Allowing the sale of Magnequench was another sign of how far the Chicom govt has sunk it's talons into our political system.

38 posted on 09/08/2010 8:24:59 PM PDT by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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