Posted on 09/08/2010 7:11:27 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
Who were the conservatives with the right profile to win a Senate election in November who were prevented from running for the Senate in DE? We have such a piss-poor bench in the state, I can’t think of any potential candidates (other than Pete du Pont, who is even older than Castle); in IL at least we had Roskam.
Christine O’Donnell is a joke of a candidate. Of course a conservative can win a Senate race in Delaware; but a serial liar with no accomplishments of the sort that makes one think that she could be a U.S. Senator cannot. She should come clean about her past (particularly her campaign spending) and run for the state house or something.
This was a perfectly winnable seat BEFORE the RNC decided to gunk up the works. Rather then mindlessly cheer for a Democrat in everything but name, why don't you supposed "Conservatives" get behind the only real Republican in the race instead?
>>> McCain had a solid lead on Obama at this time in 2008. That seemed to change in the 60 days following
For those of short memory, that was the Wall Street meltdown. A factor outside McCain’s control. No republican could have won after that incident. No democrat would have lost. Game over.
Do you anticipate a similar upheaval in Delaware ?
Since I can’t vote in that election your point is moot. If you’re talking about contributing money, I am but to the politician in my district. And Sharron Angle, both because I think they have a solid chance of winning.
That poll came out yesterday. In spite of O’Donnell’s troubling issues with telling the truth (for what reason I cannot fathom), we’ve got to stop Castle.
>>> 30 days ago, before the multi million RNC directed smear job started, O’Donnel and Coons were tied in this SAME poll.
No they weren’t, and you’ve been corrected on this “misstatement” several times now. The August poll and the September poll are about the same. The July poll was more favorable to o’Donnell, and then the support began to melt away.
She isn’t making up the lost ground, and considering it’s Delaware there isn’t much cause to think she will.
Try being less deceptive.
fascinating topic. Fact: Castle has a 52% rating from the American Conservative Union.
Did you people learn nothing from the Specter defection? The Jeffords sell out? The Crist double cross? The Scuzaffaza treason?
This was a perfectly winnable seat BEFORE the RNC decided to gunk up the works. So rather then cling to a single poll that validates your opinions, try actually THINKING about this race for a change.
Mullah Obama remains popular only in places where the GOP has not exposed his anti-American agenda in detail and the repercussions of DeathCare on every single American. The elderly, the disabled, can bend over and kiss their rears goodbye. Exposure, exposure, exposure is what destroys Liberal RATs.
We came home (Baltimore area) from Ocean City on Monday and counted signs just for the heck of it. Traveling US rt. 113 and Del rt. 1.
61 - O’Donnell
16 - Castle
Most of the Castle signs were a little larger and there was one bill-board sized but, 61 to 16. Wow.
Also all but one of the Castle signs were in the northern most county, New Castle.
As an out-of-stater, it looks like O’Donnell has a lot of ground support. We need to win this one and we can. Please donate.
https://secure.piryx.com/donate/ObyCSaw9/Friends-of-Christine-ODonnell/fresh
The problem is that the only real Republican (as opposed to RINO) in the race is a serial liar who has never done anything that would make one think that she could be a U.S. Senator. Am I pissed that the only two candidates are Castle and O’Donnell? Of course. But giving the nomination to O’Donnell will accomplish nothing other than pay for O’Donnell’s back rent and send a liberal Democrat to the Senate for the next 30 years.
Conservatives lost this seat when the filing deadline ended and no conservative with the potential to win a general election ran fo rthe office. We now have to choose between (i) a RINO who will almost certainly win the general but will only vote with us 52% of the time and (ii) a conservative who, to our dismay, would embarass the GOP, set back the cause of conservatism for years and lose by double digits to a liberal Democrat.
Given the lemons we’ve been given, we should be prepared to make some lemonade: hold our noses and elect Castle to the Senate, but elect young conservatives to other offices downballot, and have one (and, hopefully, only one, so as not to split the conservative vote) of those young conservatives run against Castle in the 2014 Senate primary (by which time they would have raised their profile and proven their mettle).
His 2009 ACU rating is slightly higher, but that is still at least 40 percentage points better than Biden or his replacement.
Don’t believe it. This is just to get Castle the nomination. So the powers that be will have either a democrat or a liberal republican in the seat come November, which is the same thing.
They always say “only a moderate can win.” And then we end up with a close (stealable) election. When a conservative is nominated, they’re unafraid to go after the democrat and they clean their clock.
“Delaware must be a socialist state.”
Yes, it is.
As are states like Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, New York, and Maryland.
Conservatives must realize that there is little hope that states like these can be “turned around” to a solid conservative way of thinking — that simply isn’t going to happen. When the country finally breaks apart at some time in the future, these will become the core of the “new socialist nation”.
These states have “tipped”, politically and in some cases demographically, to a point where the left has a stranglehold on politics and policies. This isn’t to say that conservatives don’t exist there, because O’Donnell’s “surge” is proof that they do.
But, statewide, their influence is so low as to be all-but meaningless in a true statewide election.
“That poll is over a month old.”
That poll was completed on September 2, less than a week ago.
I can’t agree with you here. O’Donnell has at least had the balls to go up against the corrupt DE establishment (a mini-Illinois if there ever was one). It’s thanks to liberal, senile frauds like Castle that the GOP has been on the rapid descent in the state, and I’m not rewarding that by supporting him. I’m more than a little disgusted with the smears of O’Donnell as well. The desperation of the establishment bitterly clinging to power.
BTW, I absolutely believe the rumors that Castle WILL switch parties if he wins (and will apparently resign to allow, yup, Beau Biden to take daddy’s seat). Coons was a desultory opponent fielded by the Dem side so that Castle would “win” while the GOP agreed not to put up any candidates against Biden. Fraud and collusion, and it’s Castle that needs to come clean and tell the truth as to what is REALLY going on here. He’s the real joke.
The ACU is meaningless since they rate McCain and Gramnesty as conservatives.
So what we are seeing is public opinion breaking against O'Donnell hard. Not exactly the trend that would make you think she can win...
The fact of the matter is that Delaware is a deep blue state. They are unlikely to send a Tea Party conservative to the Senate. So the question becomes, are you willing to send the most conservative person we are likely to get (Castle) or do you want to make a statement by nominating O'Donnell, realizing that will mean an even more liberal Democrat is elected?
As I have said before, I don't care if Castle is elected or not. This is a Dem seat already, so if another Dem is elected, it does not change the balance of power. But people should keep in mind that policy is made and changed by building coalitions, and not everyone in that coalition is going to agree with you on every issue.
I believe in electing the most conservative person possible in each state/district. In a lot of cases, that means electing someone not as conservative as I would like. But the alternative is ceding the seat to the Dems.
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