[TigersEye]

So Weaver wasnt swing off shotguns for White Supremacists? Hmmm

No, he sawed one off for an FBI agent. I don't think the agent presented himself as a White Supremacist.

[DainBramage]

He wasnt at a white supremacist meeting? He didnt agree to deliver several sawed off shotguns to the undercover agent? He wasnt refusing to pay taxes to the government?

See... Weaver, however tragic the death of his wife and son, was no hero. He was an asshole who drug his family into alot of crap.

I agree the government screwed the pooch big time after his son shot one of the agents scouting the house, but Weaver is no hero.