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1 posted on 09/08/2010 11:55:02 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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(my post at 9:38, during his interview)

Right now at this moment the GZ Imam is THREATENING us on CNN. He says he cannot move his mosque because it is a “national security” issue...that if “he changes his mind now, the Muslim WORLD will explode...it will be worse than the cartoon issue”.


2 posted on 09/08/2010 11:59:20 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: American Dream 246

They see weakness in America.

They see everyone from the AG, Petraeus, Hillary and many many celebrities all trying to get Americans diverted away from the International Koran burn-off come 9/11.

Islam can not be bargained with, it won’t tire, it will never stop coming at us.

If a fair fight cannot be won or is in a perpetual stalemate then its time to get “nasty”.


3 posted on 09/09/2010 12:00:51 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: American Dream 246

As Ann Coulter stated: the only thing that wouldn’t embolden the enemy over there is a complete surrender to Shariah law.


4 posted on 09/09/2010 12:05:49 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: American Dream 246

Yes, he’s threatening us. Islam has always spread by force or the threat of force. That’s a historical fact.


10 posted on 09/09/2010 12:11:53 AM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: American Dream 246

Here it comes. Now that 0baMao has capitulated to the jihadis on the Koran burning pastor more demands are on their way.


11 posted on 09/09/2010 12:19:30 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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Why is this such a big deal?

He's simply agreeing with with one of our high-profile generals.
There is a bigger story here, why isn't that being articulated?

13 posted on 09/09/2010 12:23:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: American Dream 246
Obviously an unaffiliated church with 50 members has a lot more influence in the world than U.S. Senators and Congressmen.

"This war is lost!" - Senator Harry Reid

"And the is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night terrorizing kids and children." - Senator John F'n Kerry

"Shamefully, we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management: U.S. management." - Senator Ted Kennedy

"We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there." - Senator Barack 0bama

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime — Pol Pot or others — that had no concern for human beings," - Senator Dick Durbin

"We've got to ask, why is this man (Osama bin Laden) so popular around the world? Why are people so supportive of him in many countries that are riddled with poverty?"

Murray said... that bin Laden has been "out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that." - Senator Patty Murray

Don't anyone hold their breath waiting for the State Dept. or a top general to come out and condemn any of this as putting our troops in danger.

14 posted on 09/09/2010 12:30:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: American Dream 246

Do they ever NOT threaten us?


19 posted on 09/09/2010 12:38:32 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: American Dream 246
Islamists consistently show the weakness of their religion and their "god"- they're always having to defend him and fight for him anytime "allah" is offended.

In contrast, the Lord God of Heaven, through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior and the Holy Spirit, says, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay." In the meantime, we're to love our enemies and do good for those who hate us. That's because OUR God is a mighty God and He sees the hearts of all men. It's not up to us to "pay back" people....if the Lord wants to have somebody "whacked", he'll do it in His good time.

20 posted on 09/09/2010 12:42:08 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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Dang! And I only have 5000 rounds on hand!


22 posted on 09/09/2010 12:50:09 AM PDT by 'smith
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General Pershing
23 posted on 09/09/2010 12:50:50 AM PDT by USAF70 (America is not 'governed' by the President or Congress. America is governed by the U.S.Constitution.)
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Is he threatening us ?
Yes he is .


29 posted on 09/09/2010 1:13:20 AM PDT by Lera
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To: American Dream 246; roses of sharon
"Is he threatening us???"

Yes, absolutely it's a threat. They're attempting to hold us hostage in our own country and force us to become sharia compliant using threats and acts of terror.

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roses of sharon wrote:

"He says he cannot move his mosque because it is a “national security” issue...that if “he changes his mind now, the Muslim WORLD will explode..."

Ah, more threats of jihad. Well...I've got your jihad, you rag headed heathen. The only path to peace with Islam is to eradicate it/them. There is no course for peaceful coexistence, not in this country, not in this world. If you don't believe me, just ask them.

36 posted on 09/09/2010 2:38:04 AM PDT by Semper Mark (0bama: "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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Watch for Eric Holder and the Department of Injustice to file a suit claiming discrimination against those who don’t let the Ground Zero Celebratory Mosque be built....


37 posted on 09/09/2010 2:38:28 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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So, let’s all run and hide because the muzzies are going to get mad and attack us. Wonder why they haven’t already attacked us. Oh, wait. They have!

This country is doomed if we don’t grow some.


38 posted on 09/09/2010 2:42:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross (o)
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This kind of “if / or” argument ignores history. The Islamic ‘Radicals’ have attacked the USofA ever since they got sufficient petrodollars to be heard outside their own borders. To say that persuasion to move this “in-your-face” Cordoba House will change even a single rabid anti-American radical or to keep one from being formed is so ludicrous as to be unworthy of further consideration.


42 posted on 09/09/2010 2:59:04 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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Enough of the word and Mind Games Camel Jockey,Islamists flew Airplanes into the Buildings slaughtering thousands of Innocent people,you dont build a 13 story monument to the Perpetrators anywhere near the site PERIOD,it is sacred Burial Ground. Go fix your slum buildings you putz or take care of all the 2 story Mosques you have in New York already. Thirteen story Mosque to Celebrate your victory over the Great satan ,PALEAEEEEEEESE,take a Hike.


45 posted on 09/09/2010 3:24:32 AM PDT by ballplayer
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“If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse.”

The radical Islamists have a hair trigger for mob violence as is evidenced by riots, murder, and mayhem in connection with pictures or critical writings or rumors about defacing or destroying their holy book, the Qur'an.

But where are the demonstrations in connection with their destruction of Christian churches, killing of Christians, burning of Bibles, our burning of Bibles so as not to disturb their sensibilities? When will we stop behaving like the vanquished, and stand up for our God, our culture, our way of life?

47 posted on 09/09/2010 3:45:59 AM PDT by olezip
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It is a threat and there is a much bigger story behind it.

He is correct, the building of the Ground Zero mosque will signify the end of hostilities on the other hand if Americans do not submit and allow the building of the mosque, then we will face the consequences.

This is not a project of Imam Rauf alone, our elected Muslim president Barack Hussein Obama is more deeply involved in this than you can imagine and if you dont think so then take a step back, clear your head and ask yourself the simple question as Why a President of the United States would come out in such strong support of a "private real estate project" and why would the State Department finance his junket to the the Middle East during the month of Ramadan (the significance of which will elude almost all Americans)

One Hundred Million Dollars my FRiends, that is not chump change. That kind of financing comes from governments and not from individuals.

Rauf knows very well that in Islam the month of Ramadan is the one month in the year that the Muslim governments cannot refuse to make contributions to build the mosque.

You see Rauf cannot move the mosque now, because he sold not just the idea of building the mosque, but the location as well. The location that holds a special significance to all muslims wordwide.

49 posted on 09/09/2010 4:15:44 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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• Concerning the burning of the Koran:
Most people start this conversation by condemning the Pastor for burning the Koran because it is inciteful. What they also do is add in one sentence about our free speech and how he has the right to do this.
What is left out is everything else people say afterwards, about how this is anti-Christian, this is against common sense, it will cause riots, it is hate filled, the Pastor is a nut, blah blah
What everyone ends up doing is making a SINGLE sentence on his right to dissent and then 8 or 9 sentences about why it is wrong.
THE POINT: All that does is create an air of APOLOGY to Islam and Muslims. It makes us sound weak, we sound sorry, we condemn one of our own in the same breath we support our own. We end up telling the world we don’t want to upset people with the actions of one rude person so please believe the rest of us don’t want to hurt you.
It is a HUGE apology attitude to ISLAM in general.
As Richard Cox said, I am glad there is one guy who is telling the truth. And yes, I would not recommend this, but for God’s sake!
WE ARE ABANDONING OUR OWN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH TO PLACATE A RELIGION THAT WANTS TO KILL US AND THEIR ANGER AT THIS IS MORE PROOF THEY ARE A VIOLENT MURDER CULT AND NOT A GENUINE RELIGION OF GOD!!
Vicevich himself, all the 3 hours of his show today when he spoke of it, made one or two sentences in his times of how that guy has the right, but he always said MORE about how he disagreed with the guy and then let most callers speak of how they disagreed with the guy doing it, their Christian faith, inciting riots, blah blah.
By NOT confronting the Islamic world on this, we are ABANDONING our rights as Americans, and THAT is the larger and more prominent issue in all this.
It’s okay to have billy Clubs at a voting booth, but it is not okay to protest a mosque at Ground Zero.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/currents/20100704_Back_Channels__Panther_case_dismissal_needs_explanation.html
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It’s okay to demand that Israel give up land for peace but it is not okay for Muslims to accept Israel’s right to exist.
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http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm
http://www.cartercenter.org/news/documents/doc137.html
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It is wrong to burn korans in Florida as an expression of disagreeing with Islam, but the US Military burns unsolicited Bibles in Afghanistan
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http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html
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It is wrong to protest a mosque at Ground Zero because it might inflame Islamic sensitivities, yet Islamic followers constantly call for our deaths and riot and burn our flag with no American government interference or comment.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/08/20108323348309300.html
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19571993
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=2455
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/afghans_protest_fl_churchs_koran-burning_plans_dea.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1T4RNTN_enUS381US381&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=muslim+burn+american+flag&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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The U.N. is taking steps to make it ILLEGAL to criticize Islam worldwide, yet it is okay to be hateful to any other religion.
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http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=90736
http://europenews.dk/en/node/21076
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/7rcg2/criticizing_islam_is_now_illegal_in_holland/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Lo7qL6cts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzzCA_oAifI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQNE0Qkp1Ac&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MA3ue7ocE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggfcS4mqmCs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT-AWz4ZbxQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AaK2pgQWrE&feature=related
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Nativity displays and even Christmas Trees are taken down because they offend, Bibles were banned from the Olympic center yet Islamic prayers are now being offered in Hartford Connecticut at the city council.
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http://victimsoflaw.net/Religious1.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58544


52 posted on 09/09/2010 4:17:17 AM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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