Sorry.
“ The Straw .............. from the Emperor Constantine until the present, doesn’t it?”
????? I don’t get it. And I don’t think what you are saying is relevant.
“In regards to the “totality” of Christian history, a “nutjob” who died only 65 years ago was responsible for 40 million deaths in Europe. That that relatively “contemporary” nutjob regularly justified his actions as the will of the Christian God: etc etc.
What you imputing is irrational.
Hitler never considered himself or his actions those of a supporter of a “Christian” God, despite his references to a Creator. Hitler was an insane man who wanted to establish a distorted personal perspective of a pre-Christian Teutonic religion. No Christian Church supported that lunatic.
Further, even if he DID conceive of himself as a promoter of Christianity, his actions were limited to a couple of decades and involved about 8 million direct victims and had no basis in Christian scripture.
ISLAM has been doing what Hitler tried to do, for over 1300 years to people of many different faiths including their own. And it has done it in a manner well grounded in the actions and teachings of its founder.
I find your injecting Hitler into this discussion totally irrelevant and indicative of a deep personal discontinuity with perspective.
“”Killed by Muslims”? Not “killed by al Qaeda” or “killed by the Taliban” or “killed by the al-Sadr insurgents”? Only the fact that they are Muslims (just like our Northern Alliance allies that bore the brunt of the fighting against the Taliban at the beginning of the war in Afghanistan) matters to you?”
Uh, YES. They were killed by Muslims who are acting out a religious imperative against non-believers.
“So, according to you, if nutjobs of a certain religion commit atrocities, then EVERYBODY of the same religion must be blamed? Even our allies?”
I really don’t know how to put this politely, but you simply refuse to get it. Islam directs its followers to regard non-believers as personal enemies and urges its followers to impose by whatever means necessary, an Islamic state on the entire world. The Taliban is acting out that directive. So did the people who flew the plane into the World Trade Center. Your attempts to obfuscate that point by bringing up aberrant individuals who were non-Muslims, acting out their own personal fantasies, ungrounded in any religious teachings are absurd.
“Adolph Hitler and Mussolini were born and raised Catholics. The vast majority of German soldiers in World War II considered themselves either Protestant Christian or Catholic Christian. So, according to your logic, the Americans who died in the European Theater in World War II were not killed by the “Nazi army” ……. They were killed by “Christians”?”
I think you have a serious disconnect with rational thought. Nothing Hitler or Mussolini(he didn’t run extermination camps by the way) did was in any way connected with their earlier religious upbringing. The actions of Muslims ARE.
WW2 was NOT about religion - it was about racism and imperialism and power. Islam is about that ALSO but its grounded in religious philosophy which makes it even more threatening.
“You are dead set in joining Osama bin Ladin in going to the religious extreme and framing everything in religious terms so you can have your religious war between 1.1 Billion Muslims worldwide and 2.2 Billion Christians worldwide while U.S. troops pay the price in blood so that you can have your fun.”
Its not MY religious war, its THEIR religious war. THEY are the ones trying to extend THEIR religion all over the globe by whatever means possible, including violence and it is MUSLIMS who are persecuting non-Muslims in Islamic territory, raping non-Muslim women, mutilating their own people and others over perceived religious violations, burning houses of worship of other people and preventing THEM from worshiping as THEY choose, and invading the land of non-Muslims to spread their contagion.
ISLAM declared war on the rest of the world back in the 600’s and have been fighting that war ever since. The west has chosen to ignore it.
Its not a conflict anyone else has requested, its one THEY have imposed.
The west can either take the time and effort to read Islamic sacred texts and laws, read their history and analyze current events and behavior patterns in Islamic countries and those parts of the west infected with their presence, or wind up like the Iranians, the Egyptians, the North Africans, and MANY others - Muslims themselves or their slaves.
Sorry. “ The Straw .............. from the Emperor Constantine until the present, doesn’t it?” ????? I don’t get it. You do not understandd the simple explanation of what a Strawman Argument is?
I put forth a statement describing religious nutjobs throughout History, specifically mentioning swords and torches . Position X.
You then you "presented position Y (which is a distorted version of X)" by claimimg "If you are SERIOUSLY as concerned with contemporary Christian “nutjobs” as you are with Muslims. ..... "
(Note how religious nut jobs throughout History in my position have now been replaced by you with attention whores posturing in front of a Channel 5 news camera and then compared to the entire Islamist extremist terrorist movement numbering in the tens of thousands.)
You then proceded to attack position Y which you created yourself.
After you beat the cr@p out of the Position Y strawman that you created yourself, you then pat yourself on the back for winning the argument.
That is called a Strawman Argument.
Obama resorts to them all the time.
Washington Post Criticizes Obama's "Straw Man" Tactics Obama Paints America's Choice as His Plan or Nothing
If you can not understand that, I may as well be debating a potted plant.
Goodbye.