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Gun Dealer Gets Prison for Selling to Illegal Immigrant; Illegal 'Middle Man' Not Charged
FoX News ^ | 09/10/2010 | FOX News

Posted on 09/10/2010 5:11:52 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Gun rights advocates are up in arms that a Texas gun dealer was sentenced to six months in prison for selling a firearm to an illegal immigrant, but a "middle-man" who bought the gun for the immigrant -- and who was in the U.S. illegally himself, but had a valid driver's license -- was never arrested, charged or deported in the case.

Paul Copeland, 56, a Vietnam veteran, was sentenced to prison time and two years probation in federal court last week for selling a gun to an undocumented alien, Hipolito Aviles, at the Texas Gun Show in Austin in January.

But Aviles wasn't the man who handed Copeland the money for the gun. That man was Leonel Huerta Sr., who presented as identification the valid Texas driver's license he had obtained before his visa expired in 2007.

Copeland claimed he was presented with a valid driver's license and had no way of knowing that the man he was selling the gun to was an illegal immigrant, or that he intended to give the gun to another illegal immigrant.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist

1 posted on 09/10/2010 5:11:53 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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>Copeland claimed he was presented with a valid driver’s license and had no way of knowing that the man he was selling the gun to was an illegal immigrant, or that he intended to give the gun to another illegal immigrant.

A valid claim, I should think.


2 posted on 09/10/2010 5:15:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I smell a set up by federal provocateurs, ala Randy Weaver.


3 posted on 09/10/2010 5:16:13 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The bureaucrat is the natural enemy of liberty.)
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I need to become ‘illegal’. Get out of jail free card? He** yeah.


4 posted on 09/10/2010 5:16:30 PM PDT by allmost
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Recall Randy Weaver?


5 posted on 09/10/2010 5:21:44 PM PDT by sport
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But agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives testified that Copeland should have known that Huerta was buying the gun for Aviles.

The BATfags are still at it. Now gun dealers are supposed to be mind readers?

6 posted on 09/10/2010 5:59:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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So all these lib nuts have been telling me that the Fourteenth Amendment says that illegals are “subject to the jurisdiction” of our country, and their children born in this country are therefore also “subject to” our laws which according to them, makes them automatic citizens.

Well obviously, by this event, illegals are not “subject to” our laws because the middle man illegal wasn’t even arrested. They bypassed him entirely and went for the gun dealer.


7 posted on 09/10/2010 6:06:01 PM PDT by Waryone
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The BATfags are still at it. Now gun dealers are supposed to be mind readers?

Sure, why not... the BATF thinks they can read minds and predict behavior so why not you?

8 posted on 09/10/2010 6:15:47 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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If you sell illegal drugs to an illegal person, don’t the two “illegals” cancel out and make the whole thing OK?


9 posted on 09/10/2010 6:21:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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I mean “guns.”


10 posted on 09/10/2010 6:23:09 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Psalm 144

And obviously an ignorant jury.


11 posted on 09/10/2010 6:34:20 PM PDT by biff
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And obviously an ignorant jury.

Or the jury following the very limited, narrow in scope, unrealistic instructions of a Federal Judge...

12 posted on 09/10/2010 6:44:49 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Doesn’t mean they gotta do what he says, does it? What’s he gonna do if they don’t???

That jury just needed on guy/gal just like the polack did in Chicago.


13 posted on 09/10/2010 7:20:37 PM PDT by biff
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Likely the biggest crime involved here was that the Indie gun dealer sold a gun to an illegal alain while being white.


14 posted on 09/11/2010 6:08:04 AM PDT by Ron H. (Impeach Hussein Obama before he can declare himself dictator!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


15 posted on 09/11/2010 11:07:15 AM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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Outrageous conduct by the prosecutor. What’s the gun dealer supposed to do? Say to the buyer, “Give me the gun back because you let your friend hold it”

Gun dealer does not have ESP. A very thin case here and what are agents doing in the store in the first place? They don’t have anything better to do obviously. More useless bureaucrats sucking down tax dollars


16 posted on 09/11/2010 12:53:56 PM PDT by dennisw (=He who will not economize will have to agonize- Confucius)
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