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Comparing Christianity and Islam (in the case of adultery)
American Thinker ^ | 09/11/2010 | David Deming

Posted on 09/11/2010 8:21:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Christianity and Islam are the largest religions in the world. Thirty-three percent of the world's population are Christian, twenty-one percent Muslim. The world's two largest religions have much in common, but they are also different in some crucial ways. The origins of both religions are fully described in my book, Science and Technology in World History, Vol. 2.

Both Christianity and Islam are offshoots of Judaism. From Judaism, Christianity and Islam derived the doctrines of monotheism, prophecy, resurrection, and a belief in the existence of heaven and hell.

Both Islam and Christianity have a holy book. Christians consider the Bible the inspired word of God. But Muslims believe that the Koran is the literal word of God. Mohammed was merely transcribing the words of Allah, much as a court reporter does. Muslims therefore attribute greater spiritual authenticity to the Koran and Islam than to the Bible and Christianity.

In Catholicism, salvation is obtained through the sacraments of the Church, including baptism, penance, and the Eucharist. Most Protestant denominations hold the doctrine that salvation depends solely on faith in Jesus Christ. But in Islam, salvation is through works and is not limited to Muslims.

Christianity is focused on forgiveness, charity, and mercy, with a side dressing of apocalyptic visions, Hell, and the wrath of God. But Islam is centered on justice and the destruction of unbelievers. Allah is merciful -- but not to infidels. The early history of Christianity is one of persecution and martyrdom. Jesus himself submitted to crucifixion. In contrast, Islam was not born in submission and earnest entreaty, but in warfare against the enemies of Allah.

After the Hegira, Mohammed and his followers began a jihad against their pagan enemies in Mecca. At the Battle of Badr in 624 AD, Mohammed's servant found one of his master's enemies lying wounded on the battlefield. He cut off the man's head and presented it to Mohammed as a present. The Prophet was overjoyed. He exclaimed, "The head of the enemy of Allah! It is more acceptable to me than the choicest camel in all Arabia." After the bodies of his foes were cast into a pit, Mohammed stood at the edge of the pit and taunted the dead by asking, "Have you found that what Allah threatened is true?"

Consider how Jesus and Mohammed handled what was essentially the same problem. A woman who had committed adultery was brought before Jesus for judgment. As she had been caught in the very act, there was no question of her guilt. The sentence dictated by Mosaic Law was death by stoning, but Jesus showed mercy. He said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Embarrassed, the woman's accusers dropped their rocks and walked away. Jesus told the woman to go home and repent. But when a man and a woman who had committed adultery (with each other) were brought before Mohammed, he exclaimed, "Stone them," and the pair was executed.

Christians tend to attribute greater spiritual authenticity to Christianity because of its emphasis on mercy and forgiveness. But in fact, the God of the Christians is as unrelenting as Allah in His condemnation of unbelievers. In Luke, Jesus describes how God tortured a rich man in Hell by burning him. In the parable of the wheat and the tares, Jesus proclaims that at the Last Judgment, God will send out angels to gather the "children of the wicked one" and "cast them into a furnace of fire."

No faith has an unblemished history of extending charity to the enemies of God. When Christian Crusaders captured Jerusalem in 1099 AD, they massacred the Muslims and Jews. Raymond of Aguilers claimed that "men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins." This was no doubt an exaggeration, but nevertheless an indication of terrible mayhem. To the atrocities committed under the banner of Christianity we could add the Inquisition, the Witch Mania, and the infamous Malleus Maleficarum (Hammer of the Witches), first published in 1487 AD.

The roots of Christian charity lie in the ethics advocated by the Hebrew prophets. But the Jews also killed the enemies of God. In the book of Deuteronomy, God gave the Hebrews license to destroy their enemies and plunder their cities. "Thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them."

We know more about Mohammed than Jesus because the latter was recognized during his lifetime as the founder of Islam. Thus, there were contemporary biographies and written records. In contrast, no one recognized Jesus as an important person in his own lifetime. Even as late as fifty years after his death, Jesus remained nearly a complete unknown to the Mediterranean world. Our primary sources for the life and teachings of Jesus are the Gospels. And the Gospels were never intended to be objective historical documents. They were written to proselytize. The author of John explains that "these are written so that you may believe."

In the West, religion is largely treated as a matter of conscience, and there is a tradition of freedom of religion. But Islam is a way of life, not just a personal belief. Individual behavior is specified in the Koran. Gambling and the consumption of both pork and alcohol are forbidden. Slavery is allowed, but slave owners are admonished to treat their servants well. Fornication is punishable by scourging. To allow individual transgressions would undermine the moral fabric that binds Islamic societies together.

Perhaps no aspect of Islam is more misunderstood by Western Christians than its role in government. Jesus began a tradition of divorcing Christianity from secular government by declaring that people should not confuse secular and spiritual obligations. "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's." Jesus also said, "My kingdom is not of this world."

But there is no tradition of separating government and religion in Islam. Indeed, such a separation would likely strike a Muslim as insane. Government exists to enforce moral rules of behavior, and morality is defined by religion. The two are therefore inexorably intertwined.

Government in Islamic countries is necessarily theocratic. The Koran is a handbook for an entire system of government. In Life of Mahomet, William Muir explains, "Scattered throughout ... [the Koran are] ... the archives of a theocratic government in all its departments ... The elements of a code both criminal and civil are ... introduced. Punishments for certain offences are specified, and a mass of legislation laid down for the tutelage of orphans, for marriage, divorce, sales, bargains, wills, evidence, usury and similar concerns."

Westerners seem oblivious to the fact that not everyone in the world believes in the superiority of democratic government.  The Greek system of democracy is foreign to Islam. Muslims no more appreciate having a democratic government forced upon them than Westerners would like being forced to live under an Islamic theocracy.

Women have an inferior status in both Christianity and Islam. Genesis states that God first created Adam. Eve was sort of an afterthought, manufactured purely to be a helper and companion for the man, Adam. And it was the scheming Eve who created original sin by talking the guileless Adam into eating the forbidden fruit. St. Paul forbade women to speak in church and instructed them to submit to their husbands. According to Paul, the man was not "created for the woman; but the woman for the man."

In Sura 4, the Koran plainly states that "men are superior to women." Women are instructed to dress modestly. A "virtuous" woman is one who is "obedient." If she is not obedient, her husband is allowed to scourge her. But the husband is admonished not to punish a virtuous woman.

God does not speak to me, so I cannot make any substantive comment on the degree to which any religion may be correct or incorrect. However, no matter what our personal beliefs are, it is important that we recognize the significant differences between Christianity and Islam.

David Deming is associate professor of arts and sciences at the University of Oklahoma and the author of Science and Technology in World History:  The Ancient World and Classical Civilization, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianity; islam; jesus; mohammad
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1 posted on 09/11/2010 8:21:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No kidding?


2 posted on 09/11/2010 8:38:08 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: SeekAndFind

Slightly flawed, because, as the author admits, “God does not speak to me.”

In particular, the Christian God does not take the same pleasure that Allah does in sending people to Hell. Allah is, as Muslims themselves point out, totally arbitrary. Like Mohammed with his beheaded enemy, he does what he likes and takes pleasure in it. The Christian God allows free will, because He wishes to be freely loved. No one goes to Hell unless they choose to reject God’s love and salvation and choose the path of evil. All are given a chance (except in the bleak Calvinist view). All are extended grace. But they can choose to reject it.

Still, on the whole, a useful summary. It would be nice if everyone could take note of this passage, for instance:


After the Hegira, Mohammed and his followers began a jihad against their pagan enemies in Mecca. At the Battle of Badr in 624 AD, Mohammed’s servant found one of his master’s enemies lying wounded on the battlefield. He cut off the man’s head and presented it to Mohammed as a present. The Prophet was overjoyed. He exclaimed, “The head of the enemy of Allah! It is more acceptable to me than the choicest camel in all Arabia.” After the bodies of his foes were cast into a pit, Mohammed stood at the edge of the pit and taunted the dead by asking, “Have you found that what Allah threatened is true?”


3 posted on 09/11/2010 8:39:17 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d take issue with a few of his generalities about Christianity, but altogether a good summary of differences.

Christianity never taught that God tortures people in Hell—rather Hell is the natural result of sin (a bit like permanent Karma) and for rejecting God’s mercy.

Christianity also does not teach the inferiority of women—rather that they are different from, and complementary to men....the point of the creation of Eve story. Hebrew and Christian scholarship never saw the creation of Eve an afterthought...as it—as it showed Adam as incomplete without Eve, and was done in the initial 6 days of Creation.

All traditional societies—where physical strength is required for survival, recognize women as physically smaller and weaker (but just in brute strength), as indeed they are. ONLY in Christian (and in Israel, Jewish) societies have women gained equal legal and social rights to men.


4 posted on 09/11/2010 8:51:57 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: SeekAndFind

The summary is fine as far as it goes, which is about the year 1000 AD.

It would be more useful to summarize the religions as they have been practices for the last 500 years or so.


5 posted on 09/11/2010 8:52:01 AM PDT by poindexter
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To: SeekAndFind

Christianity’s God sent his Son to die for me.
Islam’s god wants me to send my son to die for him.

that’s all you need to know.


6 posted on 09/11/2010 8:54:41 AM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: SeekAndFind
Both Christianity and Islam are offshoots of Judaism

If you begin with a false premise such as that then your conclusions are bound to be absolutely wrong. Islam is NOT an ofshoot of Judaism or Christianity for that matter. To perpetuate the lie is to justify the lies muslims tell about their religion.

7 posted on 09/11/2010 9:03:03 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cicero
The teen aged David, after defeating huge Goliath with a stone, also cut his head off and displayed as a trophy. Similarly in Christian history--in battle, men have decapitated enemies using the head as a trophy, perhaps on the end of a pike, and a warning...so such brutality is not unique to Islam. Apparently as late as WWII in the Pacific theater, heads of Japanese soldiers would be used in battle this way... (Sherman was right, war is hell).

This article, also in America Thinker, more succinctly summarizes the doctrinal/foundational differences between Islam v. Judeo/Christian ethics in terms of "political violence" (that is violence against non-believers)...and is TOTALLY frightening.

8 posted on 09/11/2010 9:03:30 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: SeekAndFind

In Sura 4, the Koran plainly states that “men are superior to women,no word from womens lib clan.


9 posted on 09/11/2010 9:18:23 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Cacique
If you begin with a false premise such as that then your conclusions are bound to be absolutely wrong. Islam is NOT an ofshoot of Judaism or Christianity for that matter. To perpetuate the lie is to justify the lies muslims tell about their religion.

Every scholarly look at Islam I've heard of disagrees with you.

Islam actually can be understood GENERALLY as an offshoot of Judaism and Christianity, as Mohammed had some contact with persons both religions--and Judaism in particular had been very influential by Mohammed's time for a couple thousand years in the ancient Near East. Ancient Mosaic Judaism (and to a lessor extent modern Orthodox Judaism) also closely identifies with a holy land--which must be taken and defended politically, something which is not at all necessary to orthodox Christianity.

No less than C.S. Lewis identified Islam as virtually a Christian heresy.... (since it does honor Jesus as Messiah and prophet...2nd only to Mohammed). Islam though of course denies the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, and imagines that Christianity taught that God had physical sex with Mary...which has never been taught.

The central beliefs of Mormonism also do not bear much resemblance to the central beliefs of orthodox Christians (of all denominations) but there is no doubt, Mormonism is an offshoot (and heresy, I'd argue) of Christianity.

Islam also closely resembles Judaism-after-Christ, in it's stern rejection of any possibility of God as trinity...

To be fair, Islam is a mishmashed concoction of old Arab religions (Allah the moon god), stern Jewish monotheism, and the Christian idea of new revelation and the apocalypse (end times).

I tend to believe one scholarly assertion that Islam was an explicitly political religion developed in the 7th Century to unify the newly conquered Arab empire, forcing the subject peoples into one religion of submission--to-Allah-and-the-Caliphate, one and the same.

10 posted on 09/11/2010 9:28:00 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: SeekAndFind
Both Christianity and Islam are offshoots of Judaism. From Judaism, Christianity and Islam derived the doctrines of monotheism, prophecy, resurrection, and a belief in the existence of heaven and hell.

Both Islam and Christianity have a holy book. Christians consider the Bible the inspired word of God. But Muslims believe that the Koran is the literal word of God. Mohammed was merely transcribing the words of Allah, much as a court reporter does. Muslims therefore attribute greater spiritual authenticity to the Koran and Islam than to the Bible and Christianity.

In Catholicism, salvation is obtained through the sacraments of the Church, including baptism, penance, and the Eucharist. Most Protestant denominations hold the doctrine that salvation depends solely on faith in Jesus Christ. But in Islam, salvation is through works and is not limited to Muslims.

I'm afraid that David is ignorant of many facts.

David seems to be an atheist who has limited and perverted
knowledge of all religions and should resist the the urge
to write on this topic.

Islam has NO direct scriptural ties to either Judaism nor Christianity.

Followers of the Messiah worship the same YHvH as the Jews.

Allah is NOT the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Israel.

Jesus' NAME in Hebrew is YHvH is my salvation

True followers of the Messiah believe that Yah'shua
is the Word of Elohim.

He is correct in that members of the Roman "church"
and followers of Mohammed believe that they can earn
salvation by performing works.

Currently Islamists follow the Qu'ran and murder all non-believers.

During the time of the Crusades, members of Roman "church"
murdered all who did not submit to the Vatican.


11 posted on 09/11/2010 9:30:58 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's hard to write a short, coherent comparison of two faiths that have existed for over 1,000 years, have each over a billion adherants, have developed differently in different cultures, and have contrasting schools of thought and factions that don't agree with each other. So I'll give this David Deming credit for trying to sketch out the broadest general outlines.

I want to object that he has, it seems, consulted feminist grudge-theologians in his interpretation of Scripture. For instance the Creation account does not set aside women as inferior, but calls both men and women transcendant beings whose true worth is both equal and transcendant: "In the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

This carries over strongly into the New Testament: "In Christ there is no Jew or Greek; no slave or freeman; no male and female."

There's more like that. And you'll find none of it in Islam.

12 posted on 09/11/2010 9:35:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"During the time of the Crusades, members of Roman "church" murdered all who did not submit to the Vatican."

No, actually, they didn't. But keep going - you're on a roll.

13 posted on 09/11/2010 9:38:17 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems to me that Mohammad’s idea of a ‘fantastic’ reward for dying for Allah (seventy virgins) is indicative of a sick mind.


14 posted on 09/11/2010 9:42:52 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is impossible to compare decency and honor with trash. And Islam and Muslim’s are trash.


15 posted on 09/11/2010 9:49:17 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: Cacique

While Jews, Muslims, and Christian worship the God of Abraham, the God of Christians is a Trinitarian God that neither Jews nor Muslims accept. Ergo, we DON’T worship the same God.


16 posted on 09/11/2010 9:56:13 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
While Jews, Muslims, and Christian worship the God of Abraham, the God of Christians is a Trinitarian God that neither Jews nor Muslims accept. Ergo, we DON’T worship the same God.

Allah is NOT the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Israel !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
17 posted on 09/11/2010 10:22:55 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind

But in fact, the God of the Christians is as unrelenting as Allah in His condemnation of unbelievers.

God has given man “free will” to either follow God and love Him and his neighbor or to reject God. So each individual makes his choices. The rich man (does not necessarily represent all rich men) can worship himself and his material possesions and not God. That is his choice. God has made you in his image and he certainly wants you to join him.

The one true God as reflected in the Trinity of God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are the most loving and merciful. Place your trust in God.

God does speak to you, Just listen. Be humble and you will hear.


18 posted on 09/11/2010 10:23:03 AM PDT by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: AnalogReigns

“The teen aged David, after defeating huge Goliath with a stone, also cut his head off and displayed as a trophy. Similarly in Christian history—in battle, men have decapitated enemies using the head as a trophy, perhaps on the end of a pike, and a warning...so such brutality is not unique to Islam.”

Yes, it’s not unique, all men can be brutal, and men of all religions surely have been. However, Christians don’t follow the example of David, we follow the example of Christ, as the Muslims follow the example of Muhammed. So comparing David to Muhammed is comparing apples to oranges.


19 posted on 09/11/2010 10:27:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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“It seems to me that Mohammad’s idea of a ‘fantastic’ reward for dying for Allah (seventy virgins) is indicative of a sick mind.”

Yes, it’s a classic “cult” type claim, you can probably find something similar in any successful cult that has popped up in recent history. Scientology promises if you only pay them the majority of your income for many years, you’ll become superhuman. Transcendental Meditation makes similar claims. Mormons get to become gods and rule their own planets!

Islam’s twist is making the guaranteed and greater rewards available only to those who are willing to commit violence and war to spread their cult. I wish they would learn from the Scientologists that it isn’t necessary to kill people anymore to increase your cult membership; they could just recruit some idiotic celebrities and make some slick brochures.


20 posted on 09/11/2010 10:38:14 AM PDT by Boogieman
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