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To: MWestMom; Marie

>>How dare you even argue with your mother about something that threatens her very security? Shame on you.<<

Are you nuts?

Unless I’m mistaken, Marie’s mother still votes. She is trying to wake her up to facts. And it was a pretty low blow to suggest Marie would euthanize her mother. Please think before you type.

Where do you think that money is coming from? Marie’s mother is advocating spending YOUR grandchildren’s money for her lifestyle because she was “promised”. Marie’s mother, along with the entire baby boomer generation (and yes, that includes me) needs to realize that they were lied to. There is no lockbox. The money is not there and THAT is what Marie is telling her mother.

I am just like Marie’s mother. I’ve worked since I was 15. I’ve paid into that system. My dad died at 52 and didn’t take a cent, my mom at 61 and took a year of SS widows benefits (she worked too). All of us paid and the system is broke.

Marie was doing her mother a favor by waking her up while she can still save. Her mother thinks she is retiring on SS. It ain’t happening for Baby Boomers.


65 posted on 09/13/2010 4:50:27 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom
Well, apparently I've annoyed you and I certainly didn’t mean to do that. No, I am not nuts. I did not bring up euthanasia. Marie alluded to Roe vs. Wade. That, in the same thought arena with the elderly, really rolled off me the wrong way.

What really bothered me about Marie's post was the tone. If that was the presentation style she used with her mom, I didn't care much for it. It didn't seem respectful. I had an opinion on a public forum about her delivery and that's all it is...an opinion.

I understand Marie trying to get her mother to understand the current issues. I don't believe in causing undue stress to people with petticoat flapping running with panties on my head terror either. There will be a phasing out of Social Security for sure. But, even conservatives resort to the panic mongering, we're going to have to cut it off attitude and that ticks me off. Have you ever seen the look on an elderly person's face that has heard that? It's not pretty.

This is the United States of America and we are not going to leave our elderly in the dust. However, knowing the huge waste, redundancy, and over kill that exist in the Federal Government, I also know that there are massive cuts to the Federal Government that can be made before we resort to cutting off individuals who depended on Social Security and did not have time to do anything much else.

If the average person saw more of where our tax money went, there would be revolts in the streets yesterday. I worked for a time in the office of Financial Affairs for a mid western University. I saw the Federal Grants that came through for unbelievable things....inexplicable things. You can't tell me we have to terrorize the elderly when we could cut off nationwide 50% of the kind of things I saw just at universities and make a lot of headway. It's like that movie, “Dave,” when the guy takes over for the president and brings his friend the accountant in to balance the budget. Believe me, the money could be there to phase SS out gently. But a lot of federal $ would have to be redirected and that would tick a lot of people off.

I have also seen some of the proposed ideas regarding individual accounts IRA’s and 401k’s and the frightening thing is, the government is after that too. Disturbing.

So, sorry if I offended you. You are a long time and respected Freeper. But I still think Marie's approach stunk.

77 posted on 09/13/2010 5:34:19 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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