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Dick Armey Backs Boehner's Strategy On Tax Cuts (Armey racking up RINO chits today)
TPM ^ | 09/13/10 | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 09/13/2010 10:06:55 AM PDT by nhwingut

Dick Armey, chairman of the tea party-backing FreedomWorks, got behind Rep. John Boehner's (R-OH) take-what-you-can-get talk about extending the Bush tax cuts at a breakfast with reporters sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor this morning.

Asked if Boehner made "the right move" with his suggestion that he'd vote for extending just the Bush tax cuts affecting the middle class if that's all that could reasonably pass the Democratic-controlled Congress, Armey said...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; bushtaxcuts; dickarmey; economy; taxes; teaparty

1 posted on 09/13/2010 10:07:01 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut
Look up why armey retired as speaker... I remember. Anything he says should be ignored... he is no Conservative and he is not a man of honor or honesty.

LLS

2 posted on 09/13/2010 10:09:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: nhwingut

Listening to Rush today it is a tactic to counter the dimoKKKRATS and their allies in the msm. They are trying to frame the talking points. You do not want to say you are against middle class tax cuts with an election coming up. Let’s just lie low on the subject until after the election. Strategy folks, strategy.


3 posted on 09/13/2010 10:10:00 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: nhwingut

The tax cuts expire in January. If theres a Republican Congress, it doesent come into being until afterwards. You have to take what you can and go from there. Obamadan is going to be around until Jan. ‘13, thems the sad facts.


4 posted on 09/13/2010 10:10:04 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: LibLieSlayer

How does one get a hold of this nincompoop? Tried FreedomWorks?


5 posted on 09/13/2010 10:10:12 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: nhwingut

If there’s one thing I can’t stand about Dick Armey, it’s Dick Armey.


6 posted on 09/13/2010 10:10:48 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: nhwingut

Dick and Boner

what a pair


7 posted on 09/13/2010 10:13:02 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Parley Baer

So the strategy is to have a “big win for Barack Obama’s tax cut plan” instead??

That oughtta work out


8 posted on 09/13/2010 10:14:09 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: nhwingut

Dick Armey, chairman of the tea party-backing FreedomWorks is not to be trusted. He is a hired whore, working for self-interests and highest bidder.

He pushed amnesty, and other RINO schemes. POX on the house of Dick Armey, a has been hack.


9 posted on 09/13/2010 10:14:19 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Parley Baer

Yep, Boehner explained himself, just wish he would be able to explain how low tax rates expand an economy


10 posted on 09/13/2010 10:15:48 AM PDT by Son House (Like Getting Liposuction, and Coming Out Fatter. Time to Convict Democrats of Economic Malpractice.)
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To: nhwingut

Whoops, now you’ve done it—you’ll be a target of the ‘You’re buying the MSM’s spin!’ patrol prowling around these last couple of days.

We are in an election cycle where the American people are open to voices that oppose the sitting administration as they have never been before, so what do Republicans do?

Oh, we can work with President Obama and maybe go for tax cuts on the rich, why not?

Forget all our talk about how the rich are the ones who have the money to spend that then makes jobs for others, forget our saying Obama was going to let the Bush cuts end. Boehner’s doing the Armey, Gingrich RNC thing—which is, whatever the Washington-based media want them to do so the Republcans will be liked by the Washington-based media.

It’s not about being an obstructionist, it’s about staying away from the traps these people set, and Republicans ALWAYS step into.

How are we going to argue that we can’t raise taxes in an economic downturn because that will extend the downturn if even before we’re at the table we’re saying “Yeah, we can do that, even though I don’t WANT to...”

More mealy-mouthed crap.

It’s not about Reagan’s absolutely true statements about taking 70% instead of nothing—we’re not even AT the table and we’re already giving up things we all claim are absolute non-starters.

Whatever. Boehner was rolled like a basketball by Bob Scheiffer, and people are applauding him. He’s not a bad guy, he’s not a RINO, but you’d think after all this time in public he’d have the brains to say “Bob, I’m not going to let you characterize this as ‘Republicans blocking a tax cut for the middle class.’

Instead, he let Schieffer make THAT the question, and Boehner lost the debate before it even started. And he’s going to be our next speaker?


11 posted on 09/13/2010 10:16:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: GoCards

Elite repubic punks like armey make certain that lowly serfs like us cannot bother them.

LLS


12 posted on 09/13/2010 10:18:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Darkwolf377; All

You guys are so jaded, all but the baer as far as I can tell. He took away the dems use of “they only want tax cuts for the rich”. Someone saying hell no MIGHT make you feel better but they will have to pass something Bambi will sign.
Why aren’t you guys thinking? It is embarrassing to see so many Freepers not thinking like you guys.


13 posted on 09/13/2010 10:21:22 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: libbylu

We have too many people opining on issues they clearly don’t understand.

Boehner is right on target. Listen to the interview - not the interpretation.

Best to get the facts before you speak up and look the fool.


14 posted on 09/13/2010 10:26:36 AM PDT by Herodes
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To: nhwingut

We don’t control the show right now. We may have to take what we can get for the moment. The tax cuts that can be extended will certainly benefit me, as I am self employed.
On the other hand, if Boehner said “all or nothing”, what would the Dems do? If they let all the cuts expire, I don’t see that doing anything but hurting them more in November. Most of their support doesn’t pay tax anyway, and cares more about gay marriage and free handouts than any financial issues.


15 posted on 09/13/2010 10:27:15 AM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Mamas don't let your cowboys grow up to be babies..)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Boehner made a brilliant move. If the Dems were to actually introduce legislation to preserve the middle class tax cuts and let them expire for the “wealthy” before the election, there is no way he could hold the Republicans together to vote against that bill. It would be political suicide to stand on this principle and give the Dems the ability to say that the GOP cares more for the rich and you ordinary Americans. So why not take this off the table and just say what would happen. “We think this is a bad idea but we will vote for it because some of what we want is better than nothing.”

The Dems were getting ready to say that they couldn’t keep the tax cuts for the middle class because the GOP opposes it. And they were going to do that without ever actually introducing legislation. Boehner just ripped the football away.

Remember the goal is to win the war not every skirmish. Sometimes you strategically retreat to lure your enemy into a position of weakness so you can annihilate them.


16 posted on 09/13/2010 10:30:29 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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To: libbylu
He took away the dems use of “they only want tax cuts for the rich”.

Yeah, you're right--they'll just stop that argument right away, won't bring it up once from now on.

Someone saying hell no MIGHT make you feel better but they will have to pass something Bambi will sign.

And you MIGHT want to respond to what is actually written instead of your imaginary dragons.

As I stated, you don't give this stuff up BEFORE you get to the actual work on the bill. You stand your ground, build support in the public by explaining your reasons.

Think: Would you rather someone go on TV and right off say "Yep, we're open to negotiation" or someone who says "Bob, you're characterizing this as Republicans standing in the way of a tax cut. It's a lie, Bob. Now I'm going to explain to the American people why they should support continuing the Bush tax cuts."

Why is that so difficult to grasp?

It is embarrassing to see so many Freepers not thinking like you guys.

So you're embarassed by those who don't think the way we do--as in, you're embarassed by those who think like you?

If you'd stop with the poorly-written insults and think beyond the moment, you might learn something beyond what Boehner is teaching, which is that all that talk about tax cuts hurting the economy was just that, talk.

17 posted on 09/13/2010 10:36:37 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: nhwingut
It's called stategery ;)

He didn't fall into the liberal/MSM trap of "protecting" the rich. The class wafare game is back in Obama and the democrats court, where it should be.

Knee jerk reactions only confuse the issues.

18 posted on 09/13/2010 10:47:55 AM PDT by fml
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To: Nonstatist
Wanna bet? I predict a pair of sliver bracelets and perp walking are in his future....
19 posted on 09/13/2010 10:53:08 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Herodes

I agree when I first heard this reported I thought uh oh here we go another RINO sellout. When I actually heard the clip on the radio I thought brilliant move. Between this and his impassioned speech against healthcare I think we could do a lot worse than have Boehner as speaker. Sure beats Denny Hassert and Pelosi, well that’s kind of goes without saying.


20 posted on 09/13/2010 10:54:35 AM PDT by marlon ("They talk about me like a dog" Barack Obama)
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To: Son House
... Boehner explained himself, just wish he would be able to explain how low tax rates expand an economy

It leaves more money in the private sector for investing and job creation.
Or is that a trick question?

21 posted on 09/13/2010 10:56:38 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: nhwingut

I would rather have the Republicans vote ‘Present’ for this measure instead of giving legitimacy to the Democrat proposal with their ‘yes’ votes.


22 posted on 09/13/2010 10:56:49 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Parley Baer; All
Yesterday a whole bunch of posters here jumped all over Boehner with stupendous knee-jerk negative reactions.

The posters are not RINOs or ill-intentioned, it's just that too many conservatives, as well-versed as they are in politics, just don't understand political strategery.

Boehner's gauntlet thrown before the Dems is a brilliant tactic.

Leni

23 posted on 09/13/2010 11:05:52 AM PDT by MinuteGal (B'OR:"Obama is not a Marxist"(10/20/09)..."Communism is no threat to us any more" (9/8/09))
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To: MinuteGal

I am willing to be totally wrong. Obama is using Alinsky tactics - identify, isolate, destroy. However, Boehner just cut him off at the hips by saying, of course he would never vote against tax cuts but that keeping all cuts is a better strategy. Where is Obama to go now?


24 posted on 09/13/2010 11:27:42 AM PDT by AZFolks (uet)
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To: nhwingut

The Republicans are playing the issue correctly. Something for the great mass of voters is a smart political move that deprives the libeals of wedge issue in the coming general election.


25 posted on 09/13/2010 11:51:58 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: rightwingextremist1776

>>I predict a pair of sliver bracelets and perp walking are in his future....<<

It won’t be that dramatic. Under that scenario there would be too many problems for the country. A Constitutional crisis like you’ve never imagined. He will quietly be forced to resign for a reason that they think will pass.

It has to happen after the mid terms because if done before there would be other complications.


26 posted on 09/13/2010 11:52:56 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: MinuteGal
The posters are not RINOs or ill-intentioned, it's just that too many conservatives, as well-versed as they are in politics, just don't understand political strategery.

I liked the move by Boehner, he took away their issue once again. It really was his only play, thinking long term. You take control and then hold ODumbo hostage with tax bills which don't drop the marginal rates but increase and increase deductions for wealth generators. I agree that asking for perfection is the enemy of the good in this case. Sometimes you just have to be pragmatists. Even the Founding Fathers who have been elevated erroneously as being purely principled men knew about political expediency. The Revolutionary War ended not because we cause irreparable harm to the British military, but because in Paris Franklin and Adams negotiated a lucrative deal for the Crown the get even more rich in the West Indies in an alliance with American interests and a promise for American to stay out of the their dispute with the French. English Privateers regularly attacked French Merchant vessels off the American coast with the support of us in the years 1783 to the beginning of the War of 1812. So the Rev War ended not becuase of what you learned in 6th grade history but because it was a "Negotiated" peace where both parties benefited

27 posted on 09/13/2010 12:04:12 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Truth is a Weapon
“Boehner made a brilliant move. If the Dems were to actually introduce legislation to preserve the middle class tax cuts and let them expire for the “wealthy” before the election, there is no way he could hold the Republicans together to vote against that bill.”

I beg to differ. Boehner and brilliant should never be used in the same sentence. What he SHOULD have done was to not accept the leftist template that was served up to him by the commie interviewer. He should have explained that the top 10% of earners pay 72% of all income taxes. Even though the regime and the media have stated that small businesses are NOT affected by this tax increase on those making over 250,000 dollars, it is a fact that most small business owners have to pay personal income tax on the income of their businesses... not on the profit from... but the income. These are the very people that hire the most Americans and are the largest part of the engine that drives our economy. A tax increase upon this sector will further drive jobs into the dirt. Also, anyone that PAYS TAXES should receive a tax cut... otherwise it is just redistribution of wealth and fomenting class warfare. None of these points could be successfully disputed... not if they are supported by someone that has made themselves aware. Instead... boehner accepted the dim template without so much as a whimper... and then proceeded to cave to the dims agenda, promoting class warfare and communist redistribution. I said it... Mark Levin said it and now IBD said it in a current Editorial on FR.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2588539/posts

Boehner’s Blunder
IBD Editorials ^ | September 13, 2010 | Investors Business Daily staff

LLS

28 posted on 09/13/2010 5:14:50 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: CynicalBear

One can wish none the less....


29 posted on 09/14/2010 6:04:12 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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