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Islamic texts do incite the violence of Muslim radicals‎
ollegian ^ | 09-15-10 | A. S. Carter

Posted on 09/15/2010 12:13:26 PM PDT by Righting

Letter: Islamic texts do incite the violence of Muslim radicals‎ The Daily Collegian Online - September 15, 2010

After reading Tuesday's column "Unjust hate defies meaning of 9/11," I find myself left with a question. Michael Oplinger wrote: "Al Qaeda remains a small group acting on a twisted interpretation of a religious text."

Mr. Oplinger, have you read any of the Islamic texts?

The Quran and the Hadith (a critical tool used by Muslim scholars to interpret the Quran) are documents consumed by violence and savagery. Even with the most forgiving liberal hermeneutics, buttressed by claims of mistranslation, a purely objective look at the Islamic texts reveal an inherently violent God. To be sure, Islamic texts are just as violent as the other Abrahamic faiths.

The knee-jerk reaction that Al Qaeda is "distorting," "twisting," and "misinterpreting" the faith is false -- the fundamentalist have the book on their side. Why be surprised by this? These texts were written in a time when barbarism was a social and cultural banality.

S. A. Carter


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: islamofascism; jihad; koran; wot
FROM THE KORAN:

–“ the (only) religion (acceptable) before God is Islam." (3:19)

– " If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him." (3: 85)

– “You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind.” (3:110)

– The unbelievers among the people of the book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (98.6).

– Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55) –The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)

– Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. (48:29).

– It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. (4:92)

– Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)

– Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme. (8:40)

– Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme. (2:193)

– The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. (4:76)

– We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. (3:151) - I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. (8:12)

FROM THE SAYINGS OF MUHAMMAD:

– Muhammad said to the Jews: "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. “

– Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

– Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not). Vol. 4:196

– Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Vol. 9:57

– Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel). Vol. 9:50

– Muhammad said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, …"

1 posted on 09/15/2010 12:13:30 PM PDT by Righting
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To: Righting

Whoop- there it is!
IN THE BOOK. The ‘holy’ book. ‘Holy’ words.
Absolute, naked, evil.
NO negotiation in those words- yet the COWARDLY, NAIVE west insists on ‘co-existence’ with this death cult.
Consider those words ‘holy’ and you are as evil as they are in my eyes.
Smiling, petting dogs, kissing babies and other daily niceties don’t cancel or overshadow what you believe.
To say ‘ I am a Muslim, I believe in Islam’ is to say ‘I believe in evil’- and you will be judged by ‘your enemies’ accordingly.


2 posted on 09/15/2010 12:22:54 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Righting

Another reason we don’t want them in the United States.


3 posted on 09/15/2010 12:24:12 PM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: Righting; ClearBlueSky

The Koran and the Hadiths are based on the rantings and droolings and heinous acts of a syphillitic desert pirate named Mohammed. He was a thief, a kidnapper, a slave trader, a polygamist, a rapist, a pedophile, a murderer, a torturer, an extortionist, a liar, a truce-breaker, a Jew hater, an unspeakably cruel tyrant, and all around homicidal, genocidal savage.

Islam regards Mohammed, the barbaric genocidal savage, as the paragon of Moslem manhood. All Mohammedans must aspire to be just like him.

That explains a lot.


4 posted on 09/15/2010 12:29:07 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Righting; ClearBlueSky

The Koran and the Hadiths are based on the rantings and droolings and heinous acts of a syphillitic desert pirate named Mohammed. He was a thief, a kidnapper, a slave trader, a polygamist, a rapist, a pedophile, a murderer, a torturer, an extortionist, a liar, a truce-breaker, a Jew hater, an unspeakably cruel tyrant, and all around homicidal, genocidal savage.

Islam regards Mohammed, the barbaric genocidal savage, as the paragon of Moslem manhood. All Mohammedans must aspire to be just like him.

That explains a lot.


5 posted on 09/15/2010 12:29:10 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Righting; All
The key to understanding Islam lay within Koranic abrogation -- the replacement of earlier "peacefull" surah's with later violent surah's.

When Mohammed started out in Mecca, he was weak and wrote the peacefull tolerant surah's we hear about in the media. However, when Mohammed grew strong, he moved to Medina and in Medina wrote many violent jihadist surah's which abrogated the earlier Meccan surah's.

In order that the Koran not contradict itself, the believer interprets these surah's as meaning through personal example, Mohammed showed believers that when weak, they should act peacefully and tolerant. When strong, Mohammed showed followers they should be ruthless and violent.

The islamic concept of taqiyya -- that it is permissible to lie to an unbeliever makes it possible when combined with abrogation for muslims living in lands such as America what a peacefull religion they have and to pay no attention to what goes on in places like Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi, Iran, etc.

7 posted on 09/15/2010 12:52:15 PM PDT by fso301
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To: All

Media Are Blind to Islamic Threat (excerpt of AIM Report – September B – 2005)

By Accuracy In Media | September 8, 2005

[...]

hy have our elites not exposed what the Koran says about non-Muslims and the commands to kill them? If they would read the Koran, they will find out that Allah wants Muslims to kill the infidels (unbelievers) wherever they are found (Koran 9:5), and that peace will come only to those who submit to him (Koran 8:17, 48:29, and 65). The Koran also has Allah saying that unbelievers should be killed (Koran 2:191, 3:141, 4:104, 4:89, 8:12-16, 9:5, 9:73-74, 9:123, 25:52?), that Muslim apostates should be killed or chastised (Koran 2:39, 2:85, 3:85, 3:106, 4:89, 16:106, and 47:25-28), that the heads and fingers of unbelievers should be cut off (Koran 5:33, 8:12, and 47:4), and that Muslims should fight and humiliate Jews and Christians (Koran 5:18 and 9:29). Is this a religion of peace?

There is more. For Allah, warfare is good (Koran 2:216) and jihad (fighting in the way of Allah) should continue until only Islam is dominant (Koran 2:193, 3:85, 8:39, 9:33, 35:37 and 61:9). Allah wants his followers to slaughter his enemies (Koran 8:67), allows Muslims to loot (Koran 8:1, 8:41, 8:69, and 59:7), to commit suicide (Koran 2:154, 2:207, 3:140-144, 3:157, 9:111 and 47:4), and to acquire slaves (Koran 4:3, 4:23-24 and 8:67). Muhammad himself was allowed to engage in unlimited sex with female slaves and captives (Koran 4:3, 23:6, 33:50-52 and 70:30). Is this a religion of tolerance?

In addition, Allah orders Muslims not to take Jews, Christians and other unbelievers as friends (Koran 3:28, 5:51 and 9:23), and will not forgive Christians (Koran 4:48 and 4:116). Muhammad taught to put the infidels to death wherever they were found (Koran 2:191, 2:244, 4:89, 5:36, 9:5, and 9:29), urged Muslims to fight the unbelievers who are close (Koran 9:123), mentioned that fighting is obligatory (Koran 2:216), and mandated the conquering of those relatives who opposed Muslims because loyalty to Islam overrode all other human bonds (Koran 9:23-24, and 58:22).

Muhammad is also quoted in the Koran as urging fighting until Islam is the only religion (Koran 2:193, 8:39, and 61:9), seeking the death of apostates (Koran 9:73-74), accepting slavery (Koran 4:3, 4:24, 5:87-89, 23:6, 24:32-33, 33:50-52 and 70:30), supporting the slaughter of captives (Koran 8:67), the raping of women captives (Koran 4:24), beheading the infidels (Koran 47:4), and approving looting in wars (Koran 24:29, and 48:20-21). Is this the religion of diversity?

The Koran states that if Muslims do not fight, Allah will replace them with others who will. (Koran 9:39). Those who cannot fight must help fellow Muslims in other ways, including through donations of money. (Koran 8:72). Only Islamic law or sharia is lawful for Muslims (Koran 5:50). There will not be mercy on unbelievers (Koran 5:36-38 and 48:29). The end of the jihad will happen when there is faith only in Allah (Koran 2:193). Power must belong to Muslims only (Koran 63:8), and they must exert power over non-Muslims (Koran 4:141). Is this a multicultural religion?
http://www.aim.org/special-report/media-are-blind-to-islamic-threat-excerpt-of-aim-report-september-b-2005/


8 posted on 09/15/2010 1:03:48 PM PDT by Righting
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To: Righting

And yet there are those who WILL insist that a person can believe all of that, consider that unassailable and ‘holy’, yet be ‘good’!
I conceed that they can ACT good- that they can have MOMENTS of goodness and restraint. Muslims do that every day. But so do thugs and murderers and pedophiles. You are what you believe.
I believe that all Muslims believe in the Koran because they say they do by calling themselves Muslim.
And believing those evil words makes you evil- despite your superficial resemblance to the rest of civilized humanity.


9 posted on 09/15/2010 1:20:24 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Righting

Islam is NOT a religion Mr Oumbama !
But an agressive totalitarian political ideology...


10 posted on 09/15/2010 2:07:55 PM PDT by Ulysse (I)
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To: Righting
Islamic texts are just as violent as the other Abrahamic faiths.

I disagree. In all 100 words for God in Islam, not one is LOVE. This is the main item that separates Islam from Christianity and Judaism. Islam means submission. Absolutely no where in the Quran does it teach about man having a sin-nature. No where in the Quran does it tell of God's love for sinful man. Its simply not there. The God of the Quran and the God of the Bible are completely opposite natures.

11 posted on 09/15/2010 2:29:53 PM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: Westbrook
St. Thomas Aquinas - Summa Contra Gentiles cir-1258 - 1264 AD

- Chapter 6 -
THAT TO GIVE ASSENT TO THE TRUTHS OF FAITH IS NOT FOOLISHNESS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ABOVE REASON

[4] On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, The point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning, Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Muhammad forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be. seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly.

12 posted on 09/15/2010 2:36:52 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Righting
FUNDAMENTALS OF ISLAM
(as experienced by non-Muslims)

MUSLIMS INSTRUCTED TO KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS [9:29-30] JUST FOR SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM [9:32]!

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PROHIBITED:

KORAN [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.

THIS IS MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OF DUTCH FILM MAKER THEO van GOGH:

Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]

HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes.
He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

AND MODERATE MUSLIMS TOO:

HADITH Sahih Muslim [5:2325] Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
A group would secede itself (from the Ummah) when there would be dissension among the Muslims. Out of the two groups who would be nearer the truth would kill them.

Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):

KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

UNEQUAL JUSTICE:

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:

KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old [Muhammad was 53], and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN (Shakir translation): http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION.
ISLAM IS A SOCIOPATHIC CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE AND MENTAL DISORDER.
MODERATE ISLAM IS A TROJAN HORSE FULL OF RADICALS WHO WILL SLAUGHTER US.

ISLAM DELENDUM EST!


13 posted on 09/15/2010 3:26:54 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Righting
A mosque near Ground Zero? We’ll THINK about it. BUT FIRST…

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"All men lose when freedom fails, and good men rot in filty jails. And those who cried "appease, appease," Are hanged (or, in this case, BEHEADED) by those they sought to please.”


14 posted on 09/15/2010 4:15:51 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: fso301
This concept that “it is permissible to lie to non-believers” means that it is impossible to negotiate with
Palestinians or Iran and expect any result other than obfuscation.
15 posted on 09/15/2010 6:03:01 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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