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Gunned Down in Vegas: What Really Happened to Erik Scott?
Pajamas Media ^ | September 16, 2010 | Bob Owens

Posted on 09/17/2010 8:33:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Roccus
WHERE ARE THE COSTCO SECURITY TAPES ???????

The last anyone heard they are at a forensics lab in Calif.

21 posted on 09/17/2010 8:51:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Puppage

It appears there was no sign, but I can’t really tell what exactly happened (I think I recall from another article that there was a security video but it wasn’t released, or it was ruined, or something?)


22 posted on 09/17/2010 8:52:04 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Kaslin

You know, it’d be a shame if these three officers were found hanging from a cactus somewhere out in the desert. Only sayin’, y’know?


23 posted on 09/17/2010 8:52:47 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: Tolsti2
There was no sign and he was fully legal.

Did ya get the part where I said playing devils advocate?

24 posted on 09/17/2010 8:55:26 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

I agree. I am surprised that a WP grad, on private property, would not with courtesy comply with the responsible request of the property owner or his representative.

I would.

I am near radical 2nd Amendment advocate, even for felons who have done their time, but also a private property fiend. If you are on someone’s property, they are the king, and obey or leave, just as you would wish on your property.


25 posted on 09/17/2010 8:55:52 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Puppage
There was no sign. But when the ‘nice’ Costco employee asked him to leave, he should have. Even absent a clear store policy, if a store employee asks you to leave, you should probably leave.

That being said, there is no excuse for the poor police procedure and actions, giving him contradictory orders and then killing him.

No excuse for them not releasing the phone call and video tapes.

No excuse for them covering for each other such that only one officer in the entire city over 20 years has ever been found to act improperly (and he wasn't charged with a crime).

Is there no Internal Affairs office in Las Vegas, or are they all asleep at their desks? Not one corrupt officer in all of Las Vegas worthy of prosecution in decades?

Really?

26 posted on 09/17/2010 8:56:32 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

In that same Metro Area, the police are noted for ‘getting their man’. Even if he’s not the one who committed a crime.


27 posted on 09/17/2010 8:56:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: DJ MacWoW
A previous thread revealed that Costco has a backup Off Site recording of all store vids to a central location.
28 posted on 09/17/2010 8:58:12 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (I spent all my money on women & booze, the other rest was just plain blown.)
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To: Kaslin

“It must have been a frightening tale: over a dozen police officers responded, along with a helicopter, ambulance, and competing incident command teams.”

With that much ‘investment’ of manpower and equipment, somebody had to die to justify the cost.


29 posted on 09/17/2010 8:58:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: brytlea

LEO = strictly enforced laws of the ruling class.
I do not trust the anti-second amendment/dope hunter types. Both are willing to knock your door down and stomp through your home like it is a war zone. If they make a mistake, they use lies and misinformation to thwart public outcry or accountability.


30 posted on 09/17/2010 8:58:48 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That was the last I heard also.....yet Mr. Owens and PJ Media seem to be oblivious to their existance or to the possibility of this evidence having been tampered with.
Perhaps if NO ONE reports on them, they will just cease to exist.


31 posted on 09/17/2010 9:00:19 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: UCANSEE2
LOL! Yeah, they are pretty good at getting false confessions and/or manufacturing evidence. The DNA project has shown that; in spades.

And yet the results of this display of naked incompetence and/or corruption has been a big “so what?” among our nations prosecutors and police departments. As well as a big dose of “they were probably guilty of something anyway, or involved in some way.” despite the forensic impossibility of such.

32 posted on 09/17/2010 9:00:36 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Kaslin

I really really hope Erik’s parents and his girlfriend get a HUGE chunk of money from COSTCO in the wrongful death lawsuit. The primary root cause was the Costco employee embellishing his call to the police, and strangely the internal Costco security cameras that would have shown what Erik was really doing and acting were “glitched”.


34 posted on 09/17/2010 9:03:36 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Kaslin
We do, however, know from police radio traffic picked up by a scanner that the guard had told police that Erik Scott was armed with a gun, was acting aggressively and erratically, and that he may have been under the influence of drugs.

No, We do not know what the guard told police. All we know is what the police told police

35 posted on 09/17/2010 9:04:45 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Kaslin

Cops cause crimes.

In this case: MURDER of a good man in cold blood.

At least ONE of those three cops is no better, nor deserves less harsh a penalty, than the two beasts currently on trial in Connecticut.


36 posted on 09/17/2010 9:05:33 AM PDT by bvw
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To: brytlea
I hate these stories. First because this seems a senseless killing of a man who did nothing wrong. Second because it gives a reason for people to come out and paint all police offers as villains.

Maybe that's because all these stories are one sided.

37 posted on 09/17/2010 9:05:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: Lurker

Where is the Justice Department. They should be all over this.


38 posted on 09/17/2010 9:06:14 AM PDT by Pit1 (Conservatives talk should be JOBS JOBS JOB. Mosque is a diversion by dems.)
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To: Lurker

Think about it. Corrupto cops don’t want to put their own in the slammer. The inmates wont be to kind to mr. Trigger happy but he belongs behind bars. This really sucks hope there will be some justice for the killers


39 posted on 09/17/2010 9:06:29 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: brytlea
Second because it gives a reason for people to come out and paint all police offers as villains.

I agree with your. The actions of the LVPD are not indicative of police departments across the country.

After all, It's LAS VEGAS.

I still put half the blame on the COSTCO SECURITY GUARD. I think the POLICE do as well. Notice that her name, her statements, have not been released. Just like the recording of her 911 call.

The reason? We know, don't we?

COSTCO would lose a lot of business if the 911 call was released. It's always about the money. In Vegas, money trumps human life.

40 posted on 09/17/2010 9:08:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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