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The time is right for a carbon tax (statists want immediate tax hikes) (BARF ALERT)
The Houston Chronicle ^ | 2010-09-19 | James M. Griffin & Kishore Gawande

Posted on 09/19/2010 8:04:41 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

The case for a carbon tax is a compelling one, given our current macroeconomic quandary and our apparent inability to deal with climate change. Each of these factors alone can make the case persuasively. When we take them together, the tax becomes even more convincing as a solution to some seemingly insurmountable problems.

Like it or not, for the foreseeable future tax increases are a necessity. The United States' 2009 federal deficit was $1.4 trillion — almost 10 percent of GDP.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agw; biggovernment; carbontaxes; climatechange; energy; globalwarming; insanity; liberals; obama; taxes
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1 posted on 09/19/2010 8:04:46 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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So Obama and the dems spend trillions and now want to tax us to pay for it so Africans can learn to wash their genitals and we can rebuild mosques around the world. And the dems wonder why they are in trouble. The stupidity is astounding on so many levels.


2 posted on 09/19/2010 8:08:27 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rabscuttle385

Brilliant idea. The government is so bloated that it spends 1,400 billion dollars more each year than it takes in. So the solution is to make it even bigger so that it owns the very air we breathe.


3 posted on 09/19/2010 8:09:54 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial President. EVER.)
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To: rabscuttle385
"our apparent inability to deal with climate change"

Back in the day, we called it "clothing." Put some on, take some off.

Academia... so educated, and yet so little common sense.

4 posted on 09/19/2010 8:10:04 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: rabscuttle385

Taxes on newsprint and magazines and Hollywood should cover it.


5 posted on 09/19/2010 8:10:06 AM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Like it or not, for the foreseeable future tax increases are a necessity

A complete lie. These Progressive Fascists told us the same thing in 1986, 1991 and 1993.

Oh we must have tax hikes to pay down the deficit. And idiots that we are, US voters gave them the tax hikes.

And we got a explosion in federal spending that exponentially out paced any new revenues flowing into the treasure.

We have tried balancing the budget by hiking taxes. It has failed every time it was tired.

How about this time we do something different. Something that has NEVER been tried. Freeze taxes and cut spending.

6 posted on 09/19/2010 8:13:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie

A tax on an invisible product that no one takes delivery of that has no value and may not exist.


7 posted on 09/19/2010 8:15:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Dr.Deth
At the rate we're going no one will even be able to afford to buy clothes. We'll all have to become nudists. Imagine living next door to Helen Thomas.
8 posted on 09/19/2010 8:15:59 AM PDT by JPG (Care for another lobster, Mookie? How's your steak? Ready for another triple Stoli/rocks?)
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To: rabscuttle385

So taxing a downtrodden economy is the means of the future, eh? And handing all that money to a proven money-loser and spendthrift in the federal government.

The fact that a paper in the city of Houston, for all practical purposes the epicenter of the American oil industry, pulls this garbage just shows how far down the toilet the liberal media has gone. They’re practically sullying the septic tanks about now. (And from the Bush school of economics at a relatively conservative school, at that.)

I get the idea of alternative energy. I’d love to see electric cars running on energy produced by nuclear power plants. I’d love to be free from oil.

This bozo, however, is simply not adding up the dollars and cents.

Perhaps the state of Texas should begin to consider balancing its budget by, say, slashing the salaries of university professors by 30-40%? It doesn’t look like they’re getting their money’s worth as it is.


9 posted on 09/19/2010 8:15:59 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: rabscuttle385
Unlike higher income tax rates, a carbon tax would not weaken incentives to work and save.

It makes work (and output) more expensive. It reduces savings. Sounds great.

For example, a $5 per ton carbon tax initially will raise the cost of coal by almost 50 percent.

How much will it cost to reduce government workers by 50%?

10 posted on 09/19/2010 8:19:13 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
The Houston Comical is dying. When it goes we won't have a daily newspaper. I still subscribe but I chuckle everytime I see it has gotten smaller. This newspaper like most of the others is committing suicide.
11 posted on 09/19/2010 8:21:03 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: rabscuttle385

Wow... that article is one of the stinkiest loads of bilge I have read in some time.

The the authors start with this brilliant observation about “our apparent inability to deal with climate change”, and assert this assumed human failure can be cured with taxation.

This akin to lamenting our inability to deal with the setting of the sun, and thinking we can cure that problem too with adequate tax revenues. Hearing people make this argument about the “science of climate change” makes my ears bleed.

Has science proven that the earth’s global climate had remained perfectly consistent and unchanging for billions of years, only to be recently thrown into cataclysmic imbalance by the oxidation of carbon by humans? Um, no, I think not. (Hint to carbon tax pimps: google ‘ice ages’).

If we accept the obvious geologic truth that our planet has undergone DRAMATIC climatic changes over the ages, including radical temperature swings resulting in the advancement and receding of continental glaciers, all without human activity, who are we to say that the CURRENT climatic conditions are even “normal” (nevermind artificially sustainable), just because we happen to be living here now?

At least the article is somewhat truthful in only weakly trying to tie this to actual environmental well being - and is more to the point that it’s simply an energy tax levied upon all productive human activity.

If carbon dioxide is a taxable, dangerous waste product, shouldn’t we be taxed for breathing?


12 posted on 09/19/2010 8:26:04 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Ditter

The article, and it’s premise, are being ripped apart in the comments section.


13 posted on 09/19/2010 8:26:04 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: rabscuttle385; SolitaryMan; rdl6989; livius; DollyCali; IrishCatholic; meyer; SteamShovel; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 09/19/2010 8:27:09 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: rabscuttle385

Fictional issue..to be paid with fictional dollars.


15 posted on 09/19/2010 8:28:18 AM PDT by mo
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1)Carbon tax will increase food costs.

2) Tractors, semi trucks which deliver food to grocery stores and the very stores that sell food will pass off any carbon tax on to customers in the form of higher prices.

3) The sheeple led by the media will be SCREAMING for the government to do something about the sudden surge in starving people.

4) Government with its asinine logic will enact price controls thereby creating shortages.

5) Government then pulls a GM/Chrysler takeover for the common good and fairness.

6)The so called progressives primary goal is to control food distribution thereby controlling the population.


16 posted on 09/19/2010 8:31:25 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Good it should be. I’ll look forward to the letters to the editor that will start tomorrow, if they have the guts to print them.


17 posted on 09/19/2010 8:35:38 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: rabscuttle385
statists want immediate tax hikes

The statists know their window of opportunity is rapidly closing.....

.....Lame Duck session legislation is their last chance...

18 posted on 09/19/2010 8:42:17 AM PDT by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: SteamShovel

Want to watch libs heads explode? Ask them these 2 very simple questions.

How will taxes make the earth cooler?
What happens if the earth cools too much?

I asked these at a party I went to recently and the answer I got was great.

Bush is Hitler.


19 posted on 09/19/2010 8:49:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: Zeddicus

Freeze tax rates where they are for 10 yrs. Allow small to expense 100 percent of there costs EACH YR. for 10 yrs, end the inheritance tax permantly, gov’t has no business taxing a dead person. Consider the Fair Tax after 10 yrs. defund all the alphabet agencies, put a sunset provision on the ones we must keep, i.e. FBI, CIA ETC.


20 posted on 09/19/2010 8:55:00 AM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sarah)
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