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To: wgflyer
Pure idiocy. Third party movement merely split the vote and hand victory to the political ideology they oppose. There has not been 1 successful third party in US History.

NO, the GOP did NOT start as a “third party” it took over what was left of the Whig party. It replaced a failed 2nd party. If you cannot get enough Conservative/Libertarians organized to take back the GOP from the RINO, you are NEVER going to do the much harder work of organizing a viable third party.

3 posted on 09/19/2010 8:29:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie

Karl? is that you?


6 posted on 09/19/2010 8:36:40 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: MNJohnnie

You are right—we need real reform—a reform party—a 3rd choice. None of this old saw of Wasted votes or giving votes to the other guy—If we thought that way we would still have Federalists and Whigs around. The Republicans were a 3rd Party once and hated too. The way I see it there is only two outcomes for the Tea Party movement.
1. Take over the GOP and expel the RINOs—make it a reform party dedicated to really clean the swamp of corruption.
2. Start a real 3rd party by taking over an existing one or doing a new 3rd Party.
Let the Hucklefaces and Mitts do what they will. We need reform. I suggest Palin’s Pitchforks to clean the stables of corruption. I fear if the Tea Parties fail because then
the only choice will be rebellion and a drastic change into something very different from the America I grew up in.
Lots of people would die and the USA may break into four or five warring states. Lets see how Red China Runs the world for a while.


13 posted on 09/19/2010 8:44:56 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: MNJohnnie
The mistake is to connect or confuse [perpetual] incumbency and ideology/philosopy.

Both are problems to be dealt with. Comfortable incumbents suboordinate philosophy.

The Tea Party movement is best for raising awareness and challenging incumbency. The less-organized the better.

At this point, the incumbent party (D and R) needs to be culled, period. They work together.

Until people learn to form coalitions (of specific issues) and agree to return to Constitution, separation of powers, and other liberty-centric conventions we will continue to see the assault on freedom.

18 posted on 09/19/2010 8:55:45 AM PDT by sayfer bullets ("...and if it stops moving, subsidize it." - RR)
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To: MNJohnnie

The upcoming “Republican tsunami” is made up almost entirely of the Tea Party. The GOP is poised for huge wins in November, true enough, but you might notice that a lot of these incoming Republicans are new faces, not the usual pack of old RINOs.

You don’t suppose the Tea Party has been running candidates under the GOP banner, do ya?

Smaller government, lower taxes, more personal liberty — gee, the Republicans sure sound a lot like those crazy Tea Party radicals!

Oh ... wait ...


41 posted on 09/19/2010 10:57:56 AM PDT by DNME (With the sound of distant drums ... something wicked this way comes.)
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