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Who's watching the pipelines in Long Beach?
Press-Telegram, Long Beach, ^ | 9/19/10 | Kristopher Hanson*

Posted on 09/19/2010 7:34:37 PM PDT by Nachum

LONG BEACH -- Home to the nation's largest port complex and near almost half of California's 21 oil refineries, Long Beach is a community crisscrossed with hidden, aging pipelines pumping hazardous and flammable materials in every direction, around the clock, 365 days a year. Buried beneath major thoroughfares and snaking under homes, schools and businesses, hundreds of miles of pipe transport petroleum, natural gas, chemicals and other materials to distribution centers and customers who rely on the fuels.

(Excerpt) Read more at presstelegram.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beach; long; pipelines; watching

1 posted on 09/19/2010 7:34:40 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

That’s it. Telegram our weaknesses. Stupid press wont rest until we are destroyed.


2 posted on 09/19/2010 7:36:38 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Nachum

And what is the consequence of a major 9.0+ earthquake in the area?


3 posted on 09/19/2010 7:45:00 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Nachum

Nice of them to print a map.


4 posted on 09/19/2010 7:51:26 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: J Edgar

I would think somebody would be concerned about what is happening as a result of all the continuous ones that are not the “big shake”. Our infrastructure throughout the United States is in very poor condition. Nothing lasts forever and it is far less expensive to repair and/or replace small parts rather than waiting until it all goes down. Many cities seem more concerned with tearing up everything so everyone can have wi-fi access and pay little attention to such things as deteriorating water pipes and sewer lines.


5 posted on 09/19/2010 7:54:22 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A
I agree 100% with your assessment!
Government, at all levels, is no longer interested in a ‘long view’.
All elected participants, and their supporting economic interest, are focused on short term gain, and thus we shall go the way of Rome. IMHO

This is a direct consequence of lack of faith, and belief in God as a real, guiding, and judgmental reality.

6 posted on 09/19/2010 8:05:08 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Nachum

THEY’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!


7 posted on 09/19/2010 8:15:22 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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To: Nachum
The federal agency charged with overseeing pipeline safety, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, or PHMSA, has just 100 full-time inspectors responsible for 2.3 million miles of oil and natural gas pipelines, a number Garamendi calls "disturbingly low."

A long story to convince a worried public to hire more government employee's.

I swear the papers work for unions, eg. SEIU

8 posted on 09/19/2010 8:26:40 PM PDT by TOneocon (The reason there is so much poverty is because of the uneven distribution of capitalism...Rush)
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To: J Edgar
Government, at all levels, is no longer interested in a ‘long view’.

The pipelines in the article are private. The problem is that insurers are not actively assessing and pricing risk according to the integrity of the system. Blame regulators for that, who tend to socialize the risks with regulations as a payoff to the owners.

9 posted on 09/19/2010 8:29:39 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: TOneocon
The federal agency charged with overseeing pipeline safety, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, or PHMSA, has just 100 full-time inspectors responsible for 2.3 million miles of oil and natural gas pipelines, a number Garamendi calls "disturbingly low."

Shouldn't the insurance companies be doing that job? What is the government doing socializing the risk? /rhetorical question

10 posted on 09/19/2010 8:30:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: Blogger
That’s it. Telegram our weaknesses. Stupid press wont rest until we are destroyed.

Great idea! The press can keep posting every weakness often on the internet just in case they miss one.

11 posted on 09/19/2010 8:32:58 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Blogger

By searching this site, I think you can enter a zip code and see the pipelines in your area.

http://www.npms.phmsa.dot.gov/


12 posted on 09/19/2010 8:33:38 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Carry_Okie

“The pipelines in the article are private. The problem is that insurers are not actively assessing and pricing risk according to the integrity of the system. Blame regulators for that, who tend to socialize the risks with regulations as a payoff to the owners.”

Point taken, as a further comment I would assert that the root cause is corruption in government. That’s the core responsible party that is failing for the reasons I outlined, I believe.


13 posted on 09/19/2010 8:35:43 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: J Edgar
I would assert that the root cause is corruption in government.

Yup. Socialized risk is bad for your health. Crappy pipline inspection is exactly analogous to the FAA deciding that crappy cockpit doors and disarmed pilots were just dandy on commercial airline flights. The taxpayer buys the risk by taking the responsibility for inspection.

14 posted on 09/19/2010 9:05:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: Bronzy

The site doesn’t seem to work very well for me. I put in a state and county & got a map, then tried another county and got the same map; tried another state and county and got the same map. I did find out though that the Enbridge Pipeline 6A that sprung the leak that raised our gas prices most likely crosses the Chicago Ship & Sanitary Canal about 500 ft. from the Dispersal Barrier I (electric fish barrier). It may be the victim of fish barrier induced galvanic corrosion.


15 posted on 09/20/2010 8:38:00 AM PDT by Western Phil
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