Posted on 09/20/2010 4:54:07 AM PDT by Willie Green
I'm trying so see how you arrive at this conclusion based on what he wrote in the "What is seen and not seen" essay - particularly the section on taxes. I must confess I don't see how you reached that conclusion.
This review is being precipitated by a Federal deadline that requires New Jersey to sign a funding agreement for the project with the Federal government. Once that agreement is signed, the Federal commitment is fixed in place and New Jersey becomes responsible for any cost overruns, contingencies, etc.
The Christie administration has ordered this review because they know damn well that this project is going to cost far more than expected (see Boston's "Big Dig" as a perfect case in point). He doesn't want to be the one who put the state on the hook for a huge financial commitment that is likely to extend for more than a decade.
I'd rather drive a Quadski to Manhattan. It would be far cheaper to buy every train rider a free Quadski than it would be to build the tunnel.
I'm trying so see how you arrive at this conclusion based on what he wrote in the "What is seen and not seen" essay - particularly the section on taxes. I must confess I don't see how you reached that conclusion.
I'm not basing my criticism on that particular essay.
And truthfully, I'm not limiting my remarks strictly to Bastiat, either.
After 12 years of discussing these issues on this forum, I'm just sick and tired of the same old crap about Adam Smith, Karl Marx, Ayn Rand, Frédéric Bastiat, David Ricardo, Friedrich Hayek, yadda, yadda, yadda, ad nausem...
IMHO, ALL of their theories are inadequate to address the economic challenges confronting us in the 21st Century.
So I'm falling back onto my own education to inject some NEW IDEAS into the discussion, and see if there's anybody out there who's open-minded enough to grasp the perspective that I'm presenting.
Except they're not new. They're the same tired old Socialist ideas that have failed countless times in the past. It's the old "give us enough of other peoples money and this time we promise it'll work." It never does.
And if it's your education you're counting on to win the day you need to go to whatever school you went to and demand your money back.
see if there's anybody out there who's open-minded enough to grasp the perspective that I'm presenting.
We see it, alright. We just reject it because A: It's the same old tired smelly Socialist whore with a fresh coat of cheap perfume and B: it won't work.
Have a nice day.
After 12 years of discussing these issues on this forum, I'm just sick and tired of the same old crap about Adam Smith, Karl Marx, Ayn Rand, Frédéric Bastiat, David Ricardo, Friedrich Hayek, yadda, yadda, yadda, ad nausem...
We're buried alive in that Liberal Arts crap...
We need more leaders familiar with the works of Taylor, Frank & Lillian Gilbreath, W.E, Demming, etc. etc.
If we want to really be competitive in the 21st Century, our government must be based on fundamental principles of Modern Business Management and Continuous Improvement
All this partisan bickering is bullcrap.
Well Willie I have to confess that you appear to be a true believer in the power of government. I’m not. And to misquote Stuart Chase again, “For the true believer no proof is necessary, and no disproof is possible.” On my side In the course of the last 50 years I have yet to see any government program ever come in anywhere near the projected cost or deliver even a tithe of the promised benefits.
Well Willie I have to confess that you appear to be a true believer in the power of government.
Quite the opposite.
IMHO, the Two Party System is broke, and I have little confidence in either political party.
That's why I thumb my nose at them and base my decisions using the theories of Taylor and Demming.
(Along with a good dose of Pope Leo XIII to keep me pointed in the right direction.)
Except they're not new.
No, they're not....
But if you listen to those dumbass political commentators, analysts and talking heads in the mainstream media, you'd swear that the boobs don't know a thing about Modern Management theory. All their bloviating hot air from Limbaugh/Beck & O'Reilly to Olbermann/Maddow & Carville (not to mention a couple hundred more idiots who try to tell us what to think)... Every last one of 'em ignore Modern Management theory and hammer us with dumbed down opinions based on archaic philosphies. They're boring as hell.
Well here I agree with you, if by "broke" you mean they're no longer protecting individual freedom as set forth by the founding fathers.
OTO if by broke, you mean that they're not lining the pockets of their supporters and buying influence with the taxpayers' money, then i have to disagree, because they're doing that real well. In fact the main objective of the 0-bama regime seems to be to plunder as much taxpayer wealth as possible.
From the peak in early 2007 until present, over 300,000 net New Jerseyites who worked in NYC have lost their jobs in the city.
From the peak to the trough it will be closer to 450,000 or so.
Real concerns that NYC will no longer be th ecenter of the finance and media industries for the world. Those jobs will never return.
You are well aware of the long term planning needed during massive public works transport projects. This project went from assumptions of 15,000 new jobs in NYC for NJiets each year, to current reality of massive dislocation, and the future looking like the rightsizing of the finance and media industry will permanently limit the potential of NYC to be a jobs center for NJite suburbanites.
You're right. It's not new. It's warmed over Socialism that's failed every time it's been tried. dumbed down opinions based on archaic philosphies.
You mean like the US Constitution?
You mean like the US Constitution?
What's a whacknut anti-government tax-dodger like YOU care about the Constitution?
Willie Green Happy Choo-Choo thread.
Promoting 19th Century technology for the 21st Century.
You’re Welcome. Been ages since someone else on this thread read it too :-)
Claude Frédéric Bastiat (30 June 1801 24 December 1850)
I've reached the conclusion that all those ivory-tower political-economists are total boobs and morons.
The nonpartisan theories of Frederick Winslow Taylor (1856-1915) are much more insightful. His incredible genius is still not fully understood or appreciated. He was way ahead of his time.
Interesting. What do you think of John Locke?
Interesting. What do you think of John Locke?
I think he croaked almost a hundred years before Bastiat was born.
Christie evidently refuses to become a slave to the incompetence of government planners or the Federal Reserve's disastrous monetary policy. The first always understate costs and the second assures that inflation will drive them up even more.
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