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The Meat Eaters
New York Times ^ | September 20, 2010 | JEFF MCMAHAN

Posted on 09/20/2010 11:10:35 AM PDT by oldtimer2

Viewed from a distance, the natural world often presents a vista of sublime, majestic placidity. Yet beneath the foliage and hidden from the distant eye, a vast, unceasing slaughter rages. Wherever there is animal life, predators are stalking, chasing, capturing, killing, and devouring their prey. Agonized suffering and violent death are ubiquitous and continuous. This hidden carnage provided one ground for the philosophical pessimism of Schopenhauer, who contended that “one simple test of the claim that the pleasure in the world outweighs the pain…is to compare the feelings of an animal that is devouring another with those of the animal being devoured.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: extinction; predators
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To: Eldon Tyrell

Correct. We answer to God, not the other way around.


21 posted on 09/20/2010 12:24:04 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Billthedrill
One might as well design a sewing machine around ethical precepts, and in fact, it would be much easier - we actually do know how a sewing machine works.

Most excellent analogy, Bill! The same, BTW, is true of our attempts at tinkering with human society. We don't know how to engineer that either.

The Precautionary Principle, a favorite of liberals, would actually be the ultimate in conservatism if applied consistently.

22 posted on 09/20/2010 1:01:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: mojito
I would have tried to arrange for all conscious individuals to be able to survive without tormenting and killing other conscious individuals.

Great idea, genius. That's exactly what God did. He created the world and animals to serve man. Chickens don't have feelings.

Boy, these tenured professors must be getting desperate. Now they're plagiarizing from the bible!
23 posted on 09/20/2010 1:20:17 PM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: oldtimer2

If this guy goes messing with Mother Nature he will find she is a bitch, just like we have always been saying.


24 posted on 09/20/2010 4:55:54 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: CaptainK
Can you imagine having to sit through a semester of his ponderous classes?

Don't bother. He probably does not teach anyway. That's what grad students and assistants are for.

25 posted on 09/20/2010 6:22:42 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: jessduntno

Great Movie!!!!!


26 posted on 09/20/2010 6:27:24 PM PDT by Valin
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To: oldtimer2
To be entitled to regard ourselves as civilized, we must, like Isaiah’s morally reformed lion, eat straw like the ox, or at least the moral equivalent of straw.

Feed your Ox straw and he won't be around long. No nutritional value. You need hay, not straw.

Of course, with this guy's worldview, I'm not surprised he does not know the difference.

The moral equivalent of straw (mostly fiber) might cause an outpouring of..., well, something, but it will be 'full of sound and fury and signifying nothing' as the Bard once said. Matter without substance.

27 posted on 09/20/2010 9:41:47 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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