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Woodward Book Portrays Obama Aides’ Battles
NYT ^ | 9/21 | Peter Baker

Posted on 09/21/2010 7:21:56 PM PDT by RummyChick

Some of the critical players in President Obama’s national security team doubt his strategy in Afghanistan will succeed and have spent much of the last 20 months quarreling with one another over policy, personalities and turf, according to a new book.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bobwoodward; obama; obamaswar; obamaswars; obamawars
"Beyond the internal battles, the book offers fresh disclosures on the nation’s continuing battle with terrorists. It reports that the C.I.A. has a 3,000-man “covert army” in Afghanistan called the Counterterrorism Pursuit Teams, or C.T.P.T., mostly Afghans who capture and kill Taliban fighters and seek support in tribal areas. Past news accounts have reported that the C.I.A. has a number of militias, including one trained on one of its compounds, but nothing the size of the covert army. "

Sigh...

1 posted on 09/21/2010 7:21:58 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Oy! The Boy-Queen at war. (With his aides and everyone else.)

Prickly little guy, isn’t he?


2 posted on 09/21/2010 7:26:55 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

“Although the internal divisions described have become public, the book suggests that they were even more intense and disparate than previously known and offers new details. Mr. Biden called Mr. Holbrooke “the most egotistical bastard I’ve ever met.””


3 posted on 09/21/2010 7:27:50 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

They forgot that they’d actually have to...ummm...govern. “What, me work?!”

Of course they fought each other. They couldn’t get healthcare passed for a year, even with a Democratic super-majority (and when they did get it, it was awful).


4 posted on 09/21/2010 7:31:28 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RummyChick

this is a very interesting read.


5 posted on 09/21/2010 7:32:38 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup
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To: stocksthatgoup

The bit about Blair warning them about terrorists being trained is interesting...and shows how the White House is ignoring the issue.


6 posted on 09/21/2010 7:35:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Southack

“As for Mr. Obama himself, the book describes a professorial president who assigned “homework” to advisers but bristled at what he saw as military commanders’ attempts to force him into a decision he was not yet comfortable with. Even after he agreed to send another 30,000 troops last winter, the Pentagon asked for another 4,500 “enablers” to support them.

The president lost his poise, according to the book. “I’m done doing this!” he erupted.”


7 posted on 09/21/2010 7:36:05 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: RummyChick

Kids! I knew putting them in charge was a bad idea.


8 posted on 09/21/2010 7:36:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't know which is dumber. A pert or an expert.)
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To: RummyChick

Mmmmm Might have to fork over some money for this book.


9 posted on 09/21/2010 7:36:38 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RummyChick

Liberal Bob Woodward writes a book about political aides?

Does Obama have nothing to do with this? Is he not the President?


10 posted on 09/21/2010 7:36:41 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: RummyChick
Gotta be careful with Woodward. He lies a lot and makes things up. It sounds like the usual Woodward formula: internal squabbles, Loyalists with doubts, stand up guys and backstabbers, pseudo-inside dope; with his favored ones looking good and his enemies looking bad.
11 posted on 09/21/2010 7:38:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RummyChick

Just what we need.

A bunch of hardcore liberal marxists in power, debating how to pull or not pull the levers of power controlling the military they detest.


12 posted on 09/21/2010 7:41:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is making money...)
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To: RummyChick

One thing you can say about Woodward. Although he is probably a liberal, his political insider reporting seems balanced.He tries to stay with the facts without editorializing.


13 posted on 09/21/2010 7:41:19 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: OpusatFR
"Oy! The Boy-Queen at war. (With his aides and everyone else."

No wonder it took him so long to make a decision about whether or not to send more troops to Afghanistan.

14 posted on 09/21/2010 7:47:09 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: roses of sharon

“Does Obama have nothing to do with this? Is he not the President?”

That’s one thought I like to push far far far out of my mind before I attempt to sleep.

NO. He isn’t. The Politburo is comprised of every hack with an agenda in the Democrat National Committee hierarchy.

Now I won’t be able to sleep.

I can take Ambian. The nightmares from THAT are not half as disturbing as the thought of that bunch of loony half-*ssed Marxists and nutcases in power until 2012.


15 posted on 09/21/2010 7:53:29 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: RummyChick
Let me remind everyone of what we all knew going into this sorry excuse for an administration: domestic policy was considered 0bama's people's major emphasis. Given their performance in that arena I cannot misuse the word "strength." But that means - no pretense here, you all knew this perfectly well - that foreign policy, especially foreign policy incorporating the military, was a signal weakness by comparison.

Consider just how bad that really turned out to be. The National Security Advisor terms this gaggle of fools a Politburo, and he's supposed to be on their side. Our military efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq are in the hands of Chicago ward-heelers and political hacks that make Robert McNamara look like Patton. The Commander in Chief is a feckless academic fool who wants the whole thing to disappear at the end of Fall Term so he can get back to preening as the figurehead for the Titanic.

It's what happens when celebrity trumps competence as a criterion of office. To be perfectly honest, a cardboard cutout could do the same job and cost us a whole lot less.

16 posted on 09/21/2010 7:54:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I am bumping this because it is important. I cannot believe more people haven’t responded to this.

THIS STORY AND THE BOOK IS A BIG DEAL.


17 posted on 09/21/2010 8:02:42 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: chuckee

I think Woodward was just a spoiled rich kid. I grew up in the same town he did, and it is very conservative. Knew his father, who seemed to be a nice person. And, by the way, Bill Ayers grew up in the suburb directly east of us, and he was also a spoiled rich kid.

But here’s what’s funny. The whole county is very conservative. Go figure. Is that what happens when kids have everything?


18 posted on 09/21/2010 8:10:16 PM PDT by MondoQueen
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To: mass55th; All

What I hear is a commander-in-chief who is subordinating the lives of his troops to petty political concerns and the Democrat party; he is not fit to lead either, and should be impeached.
In the meantime, the book will get more soldiers killed and make the world more dangerous for America and Americans...


19 posted on 09/21/2010 8:10:30 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: RummyChick

“Beyond the internal battles, the book offers fresh disclosures on the nation’s continuing battle with terrorists. It reports that the C.I.A. has a 3,000-man “covert army” in Afghanistan called the Counterterrorism Pursuit Teams, or C.T.P.T., mostly Afghans who capture and kill Taliban fighters and seek support in tribal areas. Past news accounts have reported that the C.I.A. has a number of militias, including one trained on one of its compounds, but nothing the size of the covert army. “

Translation:

I have nothing fresh except to pretend that “a number of militias” is somehow different than an “army” and will call it “covert” to make it sound like news to conspiricists and lefties.


20 posted on 09/21/2010 8:17:20 PM PDT by Shermy (Smoot Hawley caused the Depression, FDR saved us from the Depression. Two Big Lies.)
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To: bt_dooftlook
"What I hear is a commander-in-chief who is subordinating the lives of his troops to petty political concerns and the Democrat party..."

Yep. It's clear he's more concerned with his party's political future than he is our troops, and because they've put our military in the middle of their power struggles, more of them have have lost their lives since Obama took office.

21 posted on 09/21/2010 8:18:54 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: RummyChick
Mr. Obama’s struggle with the decision [to send more troops to Afghanistan] comes through in a conversation with Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who asked if his deadline to begin withdrawal in July 2011 was firm. “I have to say that,” Mr. Obama replied. “I can’t let this be a war without end, and I can’t lose the whole Democratic Party.”

One objective of Alinsky's Rules For Spoiled Brats was to takeover the Dem Party.. Obama doesn't want to be the one who lost it.

Both images obtained via google images. Respective sources are listed in the links

22 posted on 09/21/2010 8:27:45 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: RummyChick

So Bob’s strategy is to absolve Obambi the Deer Leader, by blaming his advisors for the policy disasters. Typical
ruling-class media.


23 posted on 09/21/2010 8:36:45 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: RummyChick

Hmmmmm. Stopped clock syndrome. Way to go, Bite-me.


24 posted on 09/21/2010 9:16:23 PM PDT by naturalized
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To: RummyChick

Let’s remember that Bob Woodward is the same a**wipe who claimed to have gotten in to see former DCI Bill Casey on his deathbed who ‘confessed’ that he knew all about Iran-Contra, Casey’s widow stated unequivocally that such an ‘interview’ never happened.

Take everything Woodward says not with a grain of salt, but a whole freakin BOX of Morton’s best.


25 posted on 09/21/2010 9:29:37 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama has LESS experience than did Jimmy Carter, guess how THIS train wreck is gonna turn out, eh?)
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To: RummyChick
Mr. Obama’s struggle with the decision comes through in a conversation with Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who asked if his deadline to begin withdrawal in July 2011 was firm. “I have to say that,” Mr. Obama replied. “I can’t let this be a war without end, and I can’t lose the whole Democratic Party.

When this gets out through Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc., 0bama's going to have to explain his actions. Putting American Soldier's lives at greater risk for the sole reason being 100% politicking sounds like grounds for impeachment.

I suppose this will make yet another issue to investigate beginning in January.

26 posted on 09/21/2010 11:05:37 PM PDT by Nasher (This November we're going for the two-fer: No Rats and No Rinos!)
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To: RummyChick; GretchenM; TBP; clockwise; highball; KC_Conspirator; lizma; Stoat; rdb3; onedoug; ...
Shakespeare Ping:

A variety of administration officials expressed scorn for James L. Jones, the retired Marine general who is national security adviser, while he referred to some of the president’s other aides as “the water bugs” or “the Politburo.”

Related insult below?

HORATIO Peace! who comes here?

Enter OSRIC

OSRIC Your lordship is right welcome back to Denmark.

HAMLET I humbly thank you, sir. Dost know this water-fly?

HORATIO No, my good lord.

(Act V, Scene II, Hamlet)

27 posted on 09/22/2010 12:13:04 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RummyChick

Alas, poor Woodward! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest...

If this book had been written by a credible author, it would help to bring down this clownish administration. But Woodward has a reputation of fabricating conversations and interviews. I’m sure there’s a lot of truth in what he reports, but sorting out what is true and what is Woodward’s “literary license” is an impossible task.


28 posted on 09/22/2010 12:46:02 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

0bama is sooo in love with himself in that photo.

What’s with the extremely long fingernail on his left thumb?

Gaydar alert.


29 posted on 09/22/2010 12:55:43 AM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that Obama will resign)
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To: cycle of discernment

a manikin in a suit , a prissy mouthpiece,is not a leader,he’s too busy posing,playing golf,they need a big sign on white house lawn “on vacation”


30 posted on 09/22/2010 12:59:08 AM PDT by wiseone (india)
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To: RummyChick
This from the Washington Post:

"Obama campaigned on a promise to extract U.S. forces from Iraq and focus on Afghanistan and Pakistan, which he described as the greater threat to American security"

That's because George W Bush eliminated the Iraqi regime as a threat to American and international security.

31 posted on 09/22/2010 4:57:16 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater

What is the upside to this book coming out before the elections??? Is it to blame the aides and not Obama???


32 posted on 09/22/2010 5:49:11 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: nickcarraway; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; ...

:’) Thanks Nick!

Liz Cheney Slams Obama for Terror Attack Quote in Bob Woodward Book
cbsnews.com | September 22, 2010 4:39 PM | Brian Montopoli
Posted on 09/22/2010 2:13:50 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2594415/posts


33 posted on 09/22/2010 3:40:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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