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Jihad to Subvert the Constitution
Human Events ^ | September 23, 2010 | Connie Hair

Posted on 09/23/2010 6:04:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Security experts want a new dividing line between "moderate" and "radical" Islam delineated not by violence but by a willingness to hold the U.S. Constitution as the supreme law of the land in America.

The new "Team B II report" (Shariah: The Threat to America) just out from a respected group of national security professionals details the threat America faces from Islamic shariah law, an ideology using a stealth approach called “civilization jihad” to subvert the Constitution.

The report explains the scope and breadth of an infiltration of America's government and by the Muslim Brotherhood—a worldwide jihadist entity using violent and non-violent means to force the supremacy of Islamic shariah law. Shariah is the Muslim legal-political-military doctrine.

"What we're suggesting is that the dividing line here is not terrorism. The dividing line here is shariah," Andrew C. McCarthy, former chief assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York recently told HUMAN EVENTS. "Shariah is the Islamic political and legal framework. There are some in the Islamic world who want to take it the way that we take religion in the West, that is that it's a private matter that isn't imposed as an institutional, legal, political matter on the rest of society."

"There is a vast swath of the Islamic world that rejects that and takes it as a divine mission to impose shariah whether that's done by terrorism or whether it's done by more sophisticated means," said McCarthy, who successfully prosecuted Omar Abdel-Rahman the blind sheikh who first tried to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993. "Shariah is the focal point that we need to look at, and shariah is extremely important because it is antithetical in very core ways to American values, stating with the fundamental premise of the United States, which is that the governed have a right to make laws for themselves and make choices for themselves irrespective of any religious component. So that's the dividing line."

Ground Zero mosque would-be imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is a supporter of an America that is "shariah compliant."

From the report:

Key Tenets of Shariah

The following are some of the most important—and, particularly for Western non-Muslims, deeply problematic—tenets of shariah, arranged in alphabetical order. The citations (in full in the linked report, edited here for length) for these findings are drawn from the Koran, schools of Islam and other recognized sources are offered as illustrative examples of the basis for such practices under shariah.

1. Abrogation (‘Al-mansukh wa al-nasikh’ in Arabic—the abrogated and the abrogating): Verses that come later in the Koran, chronologically, supersede, or abrogate, the earlier ones. In effect, this results in the more moderate verses of the Meccan period being abrogated by the later, violent, Medinan period.

2. Adultery (‘Zina’ in Arabic): Unlawful intercourse is a capital crime under shariah, punishable by lashing and stoning to death.

3. Apostasy (‘Irtidad’ or ‘Ridda’ in Arabic): The established ruling of shariah is that apostates are to be killed wherever they may be found.

4. Democracy & Islam: Any system of man-made law is considered illicit under Islamic law, for whose adherents Allah already has provided the only law permitted, shariah. Islam and democracy can never co-exist in harmony.

5. Female Genital Mutilation.

6. Gender Inequality: Shariah explicitly relegates women to a status inferior to men.

• Testimony of a woman before a judge is worth half that of a man.

• Women are to receive just one half the inheritance of a male.

• Muslim men are given permission by Allah in the Koran to beat their wives.

• Muslim men are given permission by Allah to commit marital rape, as they please.

• Muslim men are permitted to marry up to four wives and to keep concubines in any number.

• Muslim women may marry only one Muslim man and are forbidden from marrying a non-Muslim.

• A woman may not travel outside the home without the permission of her male guardian and must be accompanied by a male family member if she does so.

• Under shariah, to bring a claim of rape, a Muslim woman must present four male Muslim witnesses in good standing. Islam thus places the burden of avoiding illicit sexual encounters entirely on the woman. In effect, under shariah, women who bring a claim of rape without being able to produce the requisite four male Muslim witnesses are admitting to having had illicit sex. If she or the man is married, this amounts to an admission of adultery.

• A Muslim woman who divorces and remarries loses custody of children from a prior marriage.

7. ‘Honor’ Killing (a.k.a. Muslim family executions): A Muslim parent faces no legal penalty under Islamic law for killing his child or grandchild.

8. Hudud Punishments: The plural of hadd, is “a fixed penalty prescribed as a right of Allah. Because hudud penalties belong to Allah, Islamic law does not permit them to be waived or commuted."

• “Shariah stipulates these punishments and methods of execution such as amputation, crucifixion, flogging, and stoning, for offenses such as adultery, homosexuality, killing without right, theft, and ‘spreading mischief in the land’ because these punishments were mandated by the Qur’an or Sunnah.” (Islamic Hudood Laws in Pakistan, Edn 1996, 5.)

9. Islamic Supremacism: belief that Islam is superior to every other culture, faith, government, and society and that it is ordained by Allah to conquer and dominate them.

10. Jew Hatred: Anti-Semitism is intrinsic to shariah and is based on the genocidal behavior of Mohammed himself in wiping out the entire Jewish population of the Arabian Peninsula.

11. Jihad: Jihad is warfare to spread Islam.

12. Lying/Taqiyya: It is permissible for a Muslim to lie, especially to non-Muslims, to safeguard himself personally or to protect Islam.

13. Slander/Blasphemy: In shariah, slander means anything that might offend a Muslim.

14. Underage Marriage: Islamic doctrine permits the marriage of pre-pubescent girls. There is no minimum age for a marriage contract and consummation may take place when the girl is age eight or nine.

15. Zakat: the obligation for Muslims to pay zakat arises out of Koran Verse 9:60 and is one of the Five Pillars of Islam. Zakat may be given only to Muslims, never to non-Muslims. What amounts to a mandatory tax is required to be given to those engaged in jihad which is among the authorized recipients.

• According to shariah, there are eight categories of recipients for Zakat: The poor; Those short of money; Zakat workers (those whose job it is to collect the zakat); Those whose hearts are to be reconciled; Those purchasing their freedom; Those in debt; Those fighting for Allah (Jihad); Travelers needing money (‘Umdat al-Salik, h8.7-h8.18)

• “It is not permissible to give Zakat to a non-Muslim.” (‘Umdat al-Salik, h8.24)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: constitution; islam; jihad; moderateislam; moslems; muslimbrotherhood; muslims; radicalislam; sharia; shariah
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1 posted on 09/23/2010 6:04:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 09/23/2010 6:06:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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3 posted on 09/23/2010 6:08:23 PM PDT by penelopesire ('Obama's Wars' are with our own military..Bush's Wars were with our enemies!)
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Questionnaire for Muslims seeking U.S. Citizenship[1]

(1) The Constitution of the United States requires equal legal rights for men and women. This means that the testimony of one woman counts exactly the same as that for one man in a court of law. There are no possible exceptions to this rule for any American citizen.

Qur’an 2:282 says, in part: “call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses...” This is the basis for Shariah law which holds that in all cases of law the testimony of two women is necessary to equal that of one man.

Do you repudiate the principle in the Qur’an which requires that it takes the testimony of two women to equal the testimony of one man in a law court? YES / NO

(2) US Law does not tolerate wife beating and regards it as a crime.

Qur’an 4:34 says: “ Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded. But as to those women on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great “

Do you repudiate the teaching in the Qur’an which approves wife beating? YES / NO

(3) Cruel and unusual punishment is illegal by provisions of the US Constitution. This includes such retribution as physical mutilation and injury to the body.

Qur’an 5:38 “As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise.” Qur’an 5:33 “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: “

Do you repudiate all verses in the Qur’an which demand cruel and unusual punishment? YES / NO

(4) The age of marriage varies by state, but in all cases requires that a wife should be of child bearing age, that is, she should be post-pubescent, generally 15 or 16 years of age minimum, 17 or 18 in other jurisdictions.

Qur’an 65:4 “As for your women who have despaired of further menstruating, if you are in doubt, then their waiting period is three months as well as those who have not yet menstruated. As for those who are pregnant, their term shall be the time they deliver their burden. Allah will ease (matters) by His order for whosoever fears Him.” As a Muslim scholar named Maududi has said in his official interpretation of this verse: “Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur’an has held as permissible.”

Do you repudiate this verse in the Qur’an which regards child marriage as approved, which American law regards as a form of child molestation? YES / NO

(5) The 13th Amendment to the US Constitution explicitly outlaws slavery in all forms, male or female.

Qur’an 4:92 “ And it does not behoove a believer to kill a believer except by mistake, and whoever kills a believer by mistake, he should free a believing slave, and blood-money should be paid, but he who cannot find a slave should fast for two months successively.” As scholars have pointed out, this verse assumes that Muslims will own slaves, or a significant number will, as did Muhammad, who owned slaves and bought and sold them. This is just one verse out of dozens that approve the institution of slavery and present in as an eternal condition of humanity.

Do you repudiate all verses in the Qur’an which approve slavery? YES / NO

(6) Hate speech is objectionable in American culture, and federal law regards such language as legally actionable, deserving punishment. While there are various categories of hate speech, general agreement is that anti-Semitism is the worst such offense.

Qur’an 5:60-65 says in part, speaking specifically of Jews as verse 59 makes clear: “Those whom God has cursed and with whom He has been angry, he has transformed them into apes and pigs, and those who serve the devil” This is the source of Muslim demonstrators’ signs and chants that Jews are apes and pigs —the Qur’an itself. There are still other passages in Muhammad’s book which also are anti-Semitic —as the term is generally used in America to refer to anti-Jewish bigotry.

Do you repudiate all anti-Semitic hate speech in the Qur’an, especially verse 60 of Surah 5? YES / NO

(7) War or any acts of physical violence, or threat of violence, with the intention of forcing people to convert to a religion is utterly abhorrent to American law and is explicitly outlawed by the First Amendment.

Qur’an 8:12 “Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Muslims, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite them on their necks and cut all their fingers off.”

This is one of 164 jihad verses in Muhammad’s book. Of this number approximately 100 are commandments to able-bodied Muslim men to physically fight against non-Muslims. The remaining 64 verses deal with inner struggle, etc, and are not the subject here.

Generations of Muslim authorities leave zero room to doubt that war or other forms of physical violence on behalf of Islam, with the objective being forced conversion of non-Muslims, is commanded and is not an option. In most cases the “cover” —rationalization— for such aggression is the pretext that these should be defensive campaigns. Except that, from the outset, while Muhammad was still alive and a leader in jihad, few if any jihads were defensive at all and were only claimed to be, because Muslims were offended that other people would not willingly surrender to their armies when invaded. That is, there is no reasonable doubt that the meaning of the 100 jihad verses in question all promote violence against people of other faiths. The main objective is conversion but also important is terrorizing others so that they fear the wrath of Muslims.

Do you repudiate all jihad verses in the Qur’an which command Muslims to fight against non-Muslims with the objective of converting other people to Islam? YES / NO

(8) The First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion to all US citizens. No-one may prohibit someone from changing religion, or ceasing to belong to a religion. No-one may prohibit someone, in any appropriate setting, from seeking to convince someone else of the rightness of his or her faith and seeking to win converts. No believers of any faith are exempt from this provision of the First Amendment.

Qur’an 4:88-89 “Then what is the matter with you that you are divided into two parties about the hypocrites? Allah has cast them back (to disbelief)... Do you want to guide him whom Allah has made go astray? ... They wish that you reject (Islam), and thus that you all become equal (like any other faith). So, take not... (friends) from them, till they emigrate in the way of Allah (to Muhammad). But if they turn away (from Islam), take hold of them and kill them wherever you find them .” One of several verses which deal with what Muslims characterize as apostasy. The penalty for what Americans insist is a God-given right, to free choice in religion, is death in an Islamic context.

Do you repudiate all apostasy verses in the Qur’an and uphold the principle of free choice in religion? YES / NO

(9) In America, free speech is sacrosanct and, while a people have the right to object to criticisms of their beliefs, and while others must obey libel or slander laws, everyone who so desires is free to make any criticisms of religion he or she wishes to make. This is considered a moral good when one’s motivation is making the truth widely known. It does not matter if a truth is popular or unpopular; honesty is the higher virtue by far, indeed, there is no real contest.

Qur’an 4:140 “Allah will collect the hypocrites and those who defy faith - and put them in Hell.” This is one verse which is foundational to Shariah law penalizing all forms of what Muslims characterize as “blasphemy.” Depending on the “offense” and what country such law is enforced in, the punishment may be anything from jail time or banishment, to death.

What qualifies as blasphemy ? A few examples: criticizing Islam making jokes about Muhammad or the Qur’an, criticizing the Qur’an, which is regarded by Muslims as Allah’s exact words incarnate on Earth asserting that the Qur’an was written by Muhammad rather than a transcription of Allah’s words, for example, calling the Qur’an “Muhammad’s book.” criticizing Muhammad, especially perceived insults of Muhammad criticizing such Muslim practices as saying prayers 5 times a day, prostrate on the floor reporting objective facts that embarrass Muslims, such as the fact that Muhammad married Aisha, a girl of 6 and consummated the “marriage” when she was 9. creating an image of Muhammad or portraying him with an actor in a movie or stage play claiming to be a prophet.

The last item makes all Mormons guilty of blasphemy since all male Mormons are considered prophets by their church and all Mormon women accept this belief. One or more items make Christian missionaries who express honest opinions about the Qur’an or Muhammad guilty of the “crime” of blasphemy who, in some countries, with Pakistan being especially notorious, are killed. Indeed, considering these types of “blasphemy” alone, each, by American law, is a form of protected speech to which all US citizens are entitled.

Do you repudiate all anti-blasphemy laws in Shariah, those derived directly from the Quran as well as those derived from Hadith traditions? YES / NO

(10) The First Amendment guarantees freedom to worship any deity of your choice. Or freedom to be an Agnostic or Atheist. You may worship 100 Gods or Goddesses, or just one, or none at all. All US citizens accept this principle but are free to express their opinions if they think someone else’s beliefs are wrong.

Qur’an 4:116 “Verily Allah does not forgive setting up partners in worship with Him. But He forgives whom he pleases, sins other than that.” To be devoted to a Goddess, in other words, is, in Islam, the unforgivable sin. Also extremely serious is Qur’an 2:28, “How do you disbelieve in Allah, seeing that you were dead and he gave you life! Then he will cause you to die...”

In other words, Goddess worship deserves death according to Islam, and Atheists also deserve death. In some Muslim lands capital punishment for these “offenses” are de jure carried out.

Almost all Hindus are devotees of one or more Goddesses, so are most Mahayana Buddhists in Japan and elsewhere. Taoists venerate a Goddess, as do Zoroastrians (Anahita) and traditional Pagans such as those in the Baltic states and rural Russia. So do Wiccans and most other neo-Pagans. Islam considers Catholics and the Greek Orthodox as Goddess worshippers for their devotion to Mary, and the Mormons worship the Heavenly Mother as well as the Heavenly Father. Plus there are normative Christian groups, like Assyrian Christians, who adhere formally to usual Church doctrine but who informally venerate the Goddess Ishtar .Altogether, about 2 billion people in the world can be classified as Goddess devotees, closer to 3 billion if you add Catholics and the Orthodox. A reasonable estimate is that, including Mormons, about 15 or 20 million Americans are Goddess devotees of one kind or another. And all deserve the full protection of American law as guaranteed by the First Amendment.

Do you repudiate all passages in the Qur’an that demand death or other extreme punishment for Atheists and Goddess devotees? YES / NO

There are numerous other morally reprehensible passages in the Qur’an, all of which contravene American law and the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution. These ten examples are sufficient to make the criminality of Islam crystal clear, however, and to argue the point that Islam in any orthodox form should be criminalized in the United States. In other words, Islam should be outlawed in much the same way as Communism and Nazism were outlawed in the mid 20th century.

There might be exceptions for some Sufi schools or some Ahmadiyya groups, to speak of people who have already rejected objectionable parts of the Qur’an, and it is not surprising to learn that many of these smaller groups are themselves persecuted and rejected by mainstream Islam.[2] As for MINOs, Muslims In Name Only, there is no real objection, but otherwise Islam should be recognized for what it is, a subversive and criminal religion that functions in outright defiance of American law and which is based on principles which are totally incompatible with the US Constitution.

Islam, to discuss people who actually believe in the Qur’an, promotes physical violence against non-Muslims, it seeks to intimidate others through threats of violence, it promotes hate speech, and generally can be thought of as an organized mental illness. As we all know, from daily news stories in the press and TV, this is a matter of actions that kill people, that threaten citizens of many countries that simply wish to live in peace, and that incite outrages against “unbelievers” through hate speech.

To be very sure, Muslims may deny each and every fact about their travesty of a religion presented here. About which there are two basic rejoinders,

First:

Anyone familiar with the fact that the Qur’an is really two books in one, the Mecca Surahs and the Medina Surahs, can tell you, if he or she is honest, that most of the “good” teachings in the Qur’an date to Muhammad’s years in Mecca, when he preached tolerance and a form of morality which resembled that of Judaism or Christianity. However, in the Medina years, partly by use of the doctrine of abrogation, which nullified earlier verses at will, of which well over a hundred Mecca verses were repudiated as obsolete, what resulted was a religion that some scholars compare with Bolshevism and others consider to be an early form of Nazism. Personally the comparison with Nazism seems most accurate given the fact that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem spent the WWII years in the Third Reich and organized regiments of Bosnian Muslims to fight in the ranks of the SS, and considering the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood, the “parent” of Al Qaeda and still other terrorist groups, was funded by the Nazis and was their political inspiration.

Second:

There is a “slight detail” called the doctrine of taqiyya — lying in order to further the interests of Islam. At least two Qur’an verses are fairly explicit about this, Qur’an 3:28 and Qur’an 16:106, and this doctrine is not limited to the Shia sect. The gist of things is that Muslims are free to tell others falsehoods about Islam if they think it will protect Muslims or their property, are free to misrepresent Islam, are free to camouflage their actual purposes behind a cloak of good works, etc. In other words, Muslims simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth about their religion.

But the truth is there to be seen, and anyone who so desires can study the Qur’an and read its collection of criminal precepts any time it is convenient to do so. Not my problem if someone simply can’t be bothered to do so, or prefers cock-and-bull stories manufactured by simpletons like Karen Armstrong. and purveyed by charlatans like George W Bush or Barack Hussein Obama.

Islam is a criminal religion and it really doesn’t matter if someone who is famous lies about this painful reality. As a criminal religion it has no legitimate place in the United States of America.

About the Questionnaire: No-one who answers even one question with a “NO” should be eligible for US citizenship. For a Muslim to become a citizen all questions should require a “YES” answer.

Clearly this presents a dilemma for any believing Muslim. He or she cannot deny the perceived “truth” of even one verse in the Qur’an since all verses, according to the Qur’an’s own words, are the presumed actual words of Allah, and are inviolate and holy.

For a Muslim to give even one “YES” answer is to commit apostasy via blasphemy in belief and condemn himself —or herself— to death.

This is the exact intent of the Questionnaire, to show everyone exactly how unethical and criminal the core text of Islam actually is, how evil the religion of Islam actually is, and how antithetical to most or close to all values which Americans regard as absolutely essential —or even divinely sanctioned.

Billy Rojas[3] Eugene / Oregon http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Questionnaire_for_Muslims_seeking_U.S._Citizenship


4 posted on 09/23/2010 6:10:20 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (They call themselves greens because they're too yellow to admit they're reds.)
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To: 444Flyer; HollyB

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5 posted on 09/23/2010 6:10:26 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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6 posted on 09/23/2010 6:14:13 PM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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Connie’s article is dead right!!


7 posted on 09/23/2010 6:44:08 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; RaceBannon; stowaway; jjm2111; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; ...

Connie’s article is dead right!!


8 posted on 09/23/2010 6:44:36 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Interesting post, thanks.


9 posted on 09/23/2010 6:52:27 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Security experts want a new dividing line between "moderate" and "radical" Islam"

Is there any such thing as a GOOD Nazi?

10 posted on 09/23/2010 6:59:08 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: luv2ndamend

They have to go, but I think it will end until Christ returns, I don’t see that America has the will for making Islam a hate crime.. sad but true


11 posted on 09/23/2010 7:18:40 PM PDT by aces
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While America may not be able to make Islam a hate crime, it could redefine Islam as the totalitarian ideology that it is, thus rendering it unprotected under the First Amendment. But, alas, America probably won’t have the guts to do that, either.


12 posted on 09/23/2010 7:42:07 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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"Connie’s article is dead right!!"

Connie has always been a class person. I miss her.
Hope she is doing well.

13 posted on 09/23/2010 7:43:29 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: luv2ndamend

Great post!


14 posted on 09/23/2010 7:57:25 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sad but true, it would be a great thing and show some leadership...a beacon of hope to other western countries..


15 posted on 09/23/2010 7:58:38 PM PDT by aces
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Connie has become quite a writer. She certainly explains the difference between Jihad and Sharia so that it’s easy to understand.


16 posted on 09/23/2010 8:33:55 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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Of course, they intend to use our Constitution to their gain, then they intend to subvert it, by any means necessary, toward their ultimate goal.

We, as non-muslim Americans, must do everything within our means to subvert their process. Preventing the celebratory mosque at ground zero is the flashpoint.


17 posted on 09/23/2010 8:42:10 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Evils within America: Islam_Socialism_illegal immigration_Gangbangers_)
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Unlike the God described in the scriptures of Judaism and Christianity, The allah of islam invest himself in a place. The Koran and the Hadith make it plain that Mecca is allah's holy, impregneble place. If Mecca becomes a glassy parkinglot, fundamentalist islam falls.

There is no way for the forces of communism or Islam to prevent this.

18 posted on 09/23/2010 9:09:24 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Security experts want a new dividing line between "moderate" and "radical" Islam delineated not by violence but by a willingness to hold the U.S. Constitution as the supreme law of the land in America.

Can they use the same form for the Supreme Court and for Congress?

19 posted on 09/23/2010 10:11:11 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Somewhere along the line we are going to have to face reality and realize that we need to engage Islam much the same way that Europe did in the Crusades.

There really is no other alternative.


20 posted on 09/24/2010 4:58:35 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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