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To: DJ MacWoW

You posted to me. I didn’t to you. If you don’t like what I typed, stop posting to me.

Look, I’ll try once to reach you. It isn’t about this case. It is about how you get information and think about it. If you ever wondered why Liberals are so screwed up about stuff, it is because they don’t know how to reason. “Conservatives” aren’t immune. Threads like this are an example. People started with an opinion and nothing will turn them from it. They will demonize anything that impinges on that view and anyone that holds it.

I posted originally to the person who seemed new to the topic. I told him to not follow the people here who aren’t remotely interested in the objective truth (as opposed to the relative or subjective truth). I told him to go to link sources such as the paper that is running a blog of the inquest...sorry Kangaroo Court, and Erik Scott’s father’s blog.

Why? Because those sources provide information. Is the information there accurate? I don’t know. I’ve bookmarked the father’s site and you know his view. I’ve follwed the paper’s summary of the Inquest. I’ve watched the YouTube videos that are posted from the local media. Because, I want to know the FACTS if I can get them.

It doesn’t have to be about this topic. It could be about health care. It could be about Obama. It could be about the tax cuts. It could be about anything. But unless you actually evaluate the information(What’s the source? Can it be corroborated? Is it fact or someone’s opinion? Is the person honest? Did they make a mistake? How much is known and how much is still unknown? What are they leaving out? What questions didn’t they ask?) then you simply are a potential walking victim of propaganda. It doesn’t matter whose propaganda, because you will believe what the last person tells you.

It is why political entities dump all their millions into ads just before the elections. They know that people don’t think and will act like lemmings on their last impression.

Yes, it is why I feel pity. Maybe you get it, maybe you don’t. Good luck.


35 posted on 09/25/2010 10:43:56 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic
You posted to me. I didn’t to you.

Yes. That's how it works on a DISCUSSION forum.

It is about how you get information and think about it.

You have no idea how i do that. None.

I’ve follwed the paper’s summary of the Inquest.

Have you spoken with Vegas and Nevada freepers about it? I have. There's nothing like "boots on the ground" info. And the media aren't so honest. Must be why FR has a "Dinosaur Media Deathwatch".

Yes, it is why I feel pity. Maybe you get it, maybe you don’t. Good luck.

Oh, I get it. And I apparently have more info than you. To get a full picture, you HAVE to read what the locals say. In the early threads, lots of local freepers discussed the police force. And I read the Comments section of the news articles. It was truly eye opening.

37 posted on 09/25/2010 10:55:59 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: IrishCatholic

I sure feel privileged to have someone come onto a thread and tell us all how to FReep. It’s so refreshing.


38 posted on 09/25/2010 10:56:21 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am Derek Fenton! (me) Enjoying freedom ourselves requires tolerating it for others. (Jedidah))
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To: IrishCatholic

Oh, I forgot. “/s”


39 posted on 09/25/2010 10:57:36 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am Derek Fenton! (me) Enjoying freedom ourselves requires tolerating it for others. (Jedidah))
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To: IrishCatholic

>Because, I want to know the FACTS if I can get them.

There are enough facts to 1) condemn the officers, and 2) warrant investigation into cover-up/conspiracy/tampering-with-evidence.
Consider these facts:
1 - initially, multiple witness statements directly contradicted the police version of events at about a rate of 77%. (40/52 = .7692...)
2 - initial reports had the crowd of witnesses confused as to why they were being evacuated... countering the Costco claim of ‘violent irrationality.’
3 - initial reports had multiple officers issuing conflicting commands; later [police] reports have one officer issuing conflicting commands...
—... this in itself is proof of either a lethal Command & Control failure/incompetence OR conspiracy/obstruction-of-justice (at the very least falsification of official records, and possibly perjury).
4 - the inquest testimonies have the police setting up prior to the evacuation approximately 30 min and yet the claim is they were not prepared?
5 - the “un-usability” of the video footage for the store coupled with the non-release of the initial 911 call[s?] coupled with the initial eyewitness accounts differing from the police accounts to such a high degree.


42 posted on 09/25/2010 11:50:59 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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