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Rove Returns, With Team, Planning G.O.P. Offensive (Do not donate to Tokyo Rove)
NY Times ^ | 9/26/10 | JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 09/26/2010 4:53:35 AM PDT by jimbo123

In 2004, the Republican master strategist Karl Rove led weekly sessions at his Washington residence where, over big plates of his butter-smothered “eggies” and bacon slabs, he planned the re-election of President George W. Bush — and what he hoped would be lasting Republican dominion over Democrats.

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1 posted on 09/26/2010 4:53:42 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

He lost me last week.

Up his.


2 posted on 09/26/2010 4:55:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: jimbo123
...over big plates of his butter-smothered “eggies” and bacon slabs

For once I love the liberal media bias... LOL!
3 posted on 09/26/2010 4:58:06 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: jimbo123

4 posted on 09/26/2010 4:59:27 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Venturer

Rover is a legend in his own mind. Just read his book. He did help Dubya get elected BUT should not have stayed on as a high level policy advisor. He simply lacks the knowledge and expertise to do that [same with Rahm, Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett] and steered Dubya into some major blunders, including not responding to lies and slurs (which Rove now concedes was his fault).


5 posted on 09/26/2010 5:00:36 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: shalom aleichem

So he got dubya elected and dubya like his father was a progressive RINO who helped the conservative cause. yeah right! Rove trying so hard to be somebody. Don’t need your help or input, you are part of the reason why we have a zero in the WH


6 posted on 09/26/2010 5:06:42 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (The tides coming in)
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To: jimbo123

The way things are going, the GOP is going to start taxing candidate campaigns for using the Republican brand and ballot line in order to pay for the RNC head office.


7 posted on 09/26/2010 5:08:15 AM PDT by cmj328 (Charlie Baker is the greatest of evils.)
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To: Vaquero

Remove the word “mediocre,” and the word “stupid,” and you’ve got mho of this man.


8 posted on 09/26/2010 5:10:39 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: cmj328

lol post of the day!


9 posted on 09/26/2010 5:11:21 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: shalom aleichem

In a choice between a RINO or a conservative, Rove would prefer the RINO.


10 posted on 09/26/2010 5:18:06 AM PDT by JPG (Make DC a RINO free zone.)
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To: jimbo123
The Roveite Old Guard still refuse to open their eyes and see what is going on. Sadly this includes some of the most well know, radio hosts, bloggers and columnists on the Right. They still think of this as just another round in the political game. They still do not realize this is no longer a game, this is war.

The Republic is in danger.

Never in out history has the nation been governed by a group so fundamentally at odds with the values and the believes of the average citizen as the 0 Democrats.

In every other election the two sides shared some common values that linked them all as Americans. That is not the case this time. This time it is the Americans vrs the Anti Americans. Between those who value the exceptionalism of the USA and those who wish to destroy that exceptionalism and remake it in the style of a European Democrat Socialist country.

The old guard persists in thinking of this as just another election, just another round in the game where everyone shakes hands afterwords. That is not at all the case. We are now engaged in a remorseless revolutionary struggle where by either the Republic is restored or it is forever lost.

In that struggle there is no middle ground. One is either on our side or against us. I know that is hard for the "can't we all just get along" GOP Establishment types to deal with but that is the reality in US politics we are living these days.

11 posted on 09/26/2010 5:24:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: jimbo123
I gave DIRECTLY to 3 CONSERVATIVES, and will give more to other CONSERVATIVES.

ZERO to the NRA, RNC, or ANY other group that tends to throw ANY of their collected donations towards demonRATS, RINOs, or political opportunists like Crist, Spector, Scuzzafavva (spelling - who cares?), Murkowski, etc.

12 posted on 09/26/2010 5:53:07 AM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: jimbo123

Dear Karl,

Please go eat another large pizza followed by a gallon of ice cream. That out to keep your mouth shut for a few minutes AND keep your girlie figure!


13 posted on 09/26/2010 5:54:56 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: shalom aleichem
Rover is a legend in his own mind. Just read his book. He did help Dubya get elected BUT should not have stayed on as a high level policy advisor.

Also, it is too little to late for him to say he erred in not defending Bush as the Dems unloaded on him. We all knew it was a mistake at the time. Inexcusable.

14 posted on 09/26/2010 6:19:17 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: ronnie raygun

Rove is an (R). I am a conservative. He doesn’t care if it is a Castle or a Snowe that is elected so long as an (R) wins. Not my cup of Tea.


15 posted on 09/26/2010 6:44:27 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: MNJohnnie

I agree with your post. Well said. It’s ballots, bullets, or overt oppression. Very little time left for mistakes or losses.


16 posted on 09/26/2010 6:46:32 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Rove is a consummate politician, untroubled by Christian heritage. He requires a Come To God moment.


17 posted on 09/26/2010 6:48:22 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: Amos the Prophet

...perhaps a trip on the road to Damascus..?


18 posted on 09/26/2010 6:52:30 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Vaquero

Why post pictures of George C. Scott when there are plenty of pictures of the real General Patton around?

http://www.generalpatton.com/gallery.html


19 posted on 09/26/2010 6:53:50 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: November 2010
You need “R's” to win a majority...all kinds of R's not all think alike...If we get the majority, we set the agenda, if a few moderate R's vote with the other side, we still only need 51 R's to win....think with your brain, not follow the oh no he is a Rino.

Think big, not what you think makes you look like a BIG MAN...

20 posted on 09/26/2010 6:55:02 AM PDT by southphilly
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To: November 2010
Rove is worse than just an (R). He has always been toxic sewage waste as the lead enabler of RINOs. He and his ilk in the GOP are all going down. We are going to smoke them out, purge them completely from every district, local and federal.

NO MORE RINOs!

21 posted on 09/26/2010 6:57:09 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: southphilly

Sorry South Philly. Liberals don’t get my vote, they don’t get my support, and their primary challengers do. RINO hunting season, every election, from now till I die.


22 posted on 09/26/2010 6:57:37 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: jimbo123

I heard from an inside source that Rove was the one who talked W into doing nothing while the pinkos murdered Terri Schiavo


23 posted on 09/26/2010 7:01:21 AM PDT by Paddyboy
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To: southphilly
You are WRONG. I say force the RINOs to go join the RAT party and then let them get ALL the blame for the disaster that follows. We will no longer allow them to give RATS cover for their failed policies. Eventually, the American people will see that it is the RATS that are destroying America, then they will give Conservatives a hundred years to govern.
24 posted on 09/26/2010 7:03:57 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: jimbo123
Rove is still one of the best at what he does.

I will always regard with with respect to that end.

I will not delude myself into believing he's in lockstep with conservative ideaology though.

He's free to believe what he wants and when he's willing to contribute to our cause, that's great.

However none of us should ever fool ourselves into believing his personal agenda is anywhere near that of the people.

25 posted on 09/26/2010 7:08:02 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Al B.; Clyde5445; Brices Crossroads; onyx; Lakeshark
Over takeout chicken pot pies, the group — the Republican fund-raiser Fred Malek, the onetime lobbyist and Bush White House counselor Ed Gillespie, and former Vice President Dick Cheney’s daughter Mary Cheney, among others — agreed on plans for an ambitious new political machine that would marshal the resources of disparate business, nonprofit and interest groups to bring Republicans back to power this fall.

Head's up!

26 posted on 09/26/2010 7:21:44 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Caipirabob
Rove is still one of the best at what he does.

Really? Please elaborate.
27 posted on 09/26/2010 7:26:38 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: southphilly

You need “R’s” to win a majority...all kinds of R’s not all think alike...If we get the majority, we set the agenda, if a few moderate R’s vote with the other side, we still only need 51 R’s to win....think with your brain, not follow the oh no he is a Rino.
____________________________________________________________

Let’s think with our brains.

The only people that have shown themselves disloyal to the party thus far are the RINOs. Murkowski. Crist. Scofflaw, or Scuzza, or whatever her name is. Why are you lecturing the conservatives? Use your brain!

In a wave election the people will vote against the party they are angry at. Get conservatives in power in those elections. The go-along, get-along philosophy has almost ruined our country. It may already be too late. We need to actually change the policies, not just the party label.

The RINO establishment has lost 8 out of 9 elections against more conservative candidates backed by the Tea Party. The establishment needs to be taken over by the Tea Party and the conservatives; they lose elections.


28 posted on 09/26/2010 7:28:26 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: Caipirabob
Rove is still one of the best at what he does.


Karl Rove has been in politics in one form or another since his high school days. I don't know about being the best but he sure has been associated and involved with some influencial politicians over his career.

29 posted on 09/26/2010 7:31:21 AM PDT by deport
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Brices Crossroads; onyx; Clyde5445
Richard Viguerie, a longtime conservative strategist who has allied with Tea Party activists, said, “We’re all on the same page until the polls close Nov. 2.”

But, referring to Mr. Rove and Mr. Gillespie as part of the “ruling class,” he added, “Then a massive, almost historic battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party begins.”

Mr. Viguerie -- one of the original Reagan warriors and direct mail guru -- gets it. He knows that the real battle starts Nov. 3. Unfortunately, so do the RINOs and their American Crossroads front group:

Whatever battle Mr. Viguerie predicts, Mr. Duncan said the group would have staying power. “We’re going to be involved in 2012,” he said. “That’s what we’re gearing for.”

30 posted on 09/26/2010 7:32:10 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: southphilly
You need “R's” to win a majority...all kinds of R's not all think alike...If we get the majority, we set the agenda, if a few moderate R's vote with the other side, we still only need 51 R's to win....

Concurring bump. Lets take the chairman's gavel out of the democrats hands.

31 posted on 09/26/2010 7:40:35 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: November 2010
The only people that have shown themselves disloyal to the party thus far are the RINOs.

Not true. Hofffman (of all people) got defeated in the NY23 Republican primary and is now running third party without the backing of his former tea-party allies.

32 posted on 09/26/2010 7:45:48 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: JPG
In a choice between a RINO or a conservative, Rove would prefer the RINO.

Rove makes money by getting candidates elected. Period.

He's not in it (or anything) because he believes in it, he's in it because it puts buttered bacon on the table.

Politics is a despicable whoredom, and he's nothing but a pimp for the biggest checkbook he can crack.

Those of us who have to live with the consequences of his work are rather fed up and quite ready to drive the pimps like him out with the whores like Pelosi.

And good riddance to both.

33 posted on 09/26/2010 7:58:16 AM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history.)
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To: jimbo123
After watching Rove and Sour Kraut's reaction to Conservative Primary Victories, I asked myself if their remarks would help a CONSERVATIVE or a LIBERAL capaign.

The answer: LIBERAL
34 posted on 09/26/2010 8:18:30 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: jimbo123

"OK, here's your next step: Create organization to siphon money from Conservatives.   Give it a catchy, stupid name, like 'American Crossroads'.   Am sending you start-up money.   Regards, Soros"


35 posted on 09/26/2010 8:28:08 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: jimbo123

Rove who?


36 posted on 09/26/2010 8:29:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Al B.; Virginia Ridgerunner; Brices Crossroads; Clyde5445

You alerted me to this group in July (I think).

I applaud the group for sending or spending $3 Million on Sharron Angle’s campaign and it’s good to know they’ve helped Rand Paul too.

We’ll watch this group closely. I wonder what it would take to get on their mailing list? :)


37 posted on 09/26/2010 8:37:42 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: onyx; Brices Crossroads; Virginia Ridgerunner; Clyde5445
IMO any money given by this group to conservatives is an investment in them joining the "ruling class." Maybe it will work, maybe it won't.

But true grassroots conservatives like Sarah Palin? Forget it. Rove & co. know they cannot control her.

Sarah Palin, like Viguerie, knows what is coming after Nov. 2. It is NO accident that she put out that tea party video last week and that she is having a joint TV interview with Rush Limbaugh tomorrow night. She's sending her own message to the ruling class Republicans.

38 posted on 09/26/2010 8:55:45 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: Al B.; Brices Crossroads; Virginia Ridgerunner; Clyde5445

Right. Karl Rove isn’t going to be for Sarah Palin.
His group will find another candidate. Likely Mitch Daniels, Bob McDonnell, or maybe Haley Barbour, unless he’s deemed too Southern.


39 posted on 09/26/2010 9:08:02 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

because Patton never said...’Rommel you magnificent b@stard, I read your book’

but GC Scott did.


40 posted on 09/26/2010 9:10:54 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: onyx

Rove-Rommney

just wait and see.


41 posted on 09/26/2010 9:14:59 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: MNJohnnie

BUMP!


42 posted on 09/26/2010 9:21:31 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: deport
Excuse me but just why does Rove get this billing as such a political genius?

He took a GOP Congressional Majority and possession of the White House and in 6 years turned it into a absolute political minority.

The GOP victories in 2002 had more to do with the aftermath of the 09-11 attacks then anything Rove did.

His only claim to fame is winning 2 Presidential races by the skin of his teeth and being completely wrong in his forecasting before the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Sorry but I see no evidence of any real “genius” from Rove other then that at marketing his reputation

43 posted on 09/26/2010 9:33:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie

Rove and the ruling class see exactly whats going on.

They just don’t like it.


44 posted on 09/26/2010 9:42:17 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: mac_truck

That’s sad. Anyone that runs in a party primary is morally and ethically obligated to support the victor, at least to the extent of abiding by the primary results. Republican party should make a rule that candidates must give donors the option of getting their money back if the candidate doesn’t abide by the primary result.


45 posted on 09/26/2010 9:43:20 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: jimbo123

Interesting that it was Mary Cheney and not her sister Liz at that “meeting of the moderates” Tokyo Rove organized.

- JP


46 posted on 09/26/2010 9:43:20 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Conservatism is not a candidate. It's a movement." - Jeffrey Lord)
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To: poobear

out to = ought to

Typing while out of coffee.


47 posted on 09/26/2010 9:43:29 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Caipirabob

Excuse me but just why does Rove get this billing as such a political genius?

He took a GOP Congressional Majority and possession of the White House and in 6 years turned it into a absolute political minority.

The GOP victories in 2002 had more to do with the aftermath of the 09-11 attacks then anything Rove did.

His only claim to fame is winning 2 Presidential races by the skin of his teeth and being completely wrong in his forecasting before the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Sorry but I see no evidence of any real “genius” from Rove other then that at marketing his reputation


48 posted on 09/26/2010 9:45:06 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: IncPen
Rove makes money by getting candidates elected. Period.

He's not in it (or anything) because he believes in it, he's in it because it puts buttered bacon on the table.

When you have your own business, it's really hard to succeed if you restrict your clientele to people who never make you mad.

That said, I think Karl makes much of his money these days from his writing and appearances.

49 posted on 09/26/2010 9:59:56 AM PDT by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Excuse me but just why does Rove get this billing as such a political genius?

I think it comes, in part, from his encyclopedic knowledge of every political district in the country.

50 posted on 09/26/2010 10:01:01 AM PDT by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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