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To: ExSoldier; Biggirl
That training which makes good soldiers is a coin with two sides. We home schooled and our daughter spend a couple of years in public HS in central FL. Because we refused to let the system intimidate and indoctrinate our kid, I was in frequent close contact with the administrative end of the system. The definitions of right, wrong, moral and INDIVIDUAL responsibility and freedom being pushed on kids have no resemblance to what those of us in grade school in the 50s were taught. Pretty much everything is presented in a collectivist perspective. The good of the group, follow orders, and so on. Responsibility is to group authority, NOT to one's self, one's parents even.

In some areas, kids are questioned about what goes on at home and encouraged to report parental behavior that is deemed incorrect by people in the school system. That ain't tin foil hat talk, it happens.

My daughter graduated in 2000, I can guarantee I am still remembered (not fondly) by more than one administration pencil pushing bureaucrat. Many are nothing more than pompous bullies who don't know how to handle a parent that calmly and methodically gives it back to them, in spades. It still brings a smile to me to recall slicing and dicing a couple of them.

59 posted on 09/29/2010 10:29:04 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

From my reading of your posting, you did a GREAT job home schooling your daugther. Since you said “central FL”, I had been keeping tabs on the Congressman Grayson, and I have been reading he is doing “dirty politics” against an honorable guy by the name of Daniel Webster. I do hope the latter can throw the former out on his ears!


60 posted on 09/29/2010 10:35:35 AM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Pretty much everything is presented in a collectivist perspective. The good of the group, follow orders, and so on. Responsibility is to group authority, NOT to one's self, one's parents even.

That is still the lock step curriculum taught across the nation and it gets even more rigid and dogmatic in college. When I teach social studies in my classroom I always start the year by telling the kids they have likely NEVER had a teacher like me nor will they likely ever have another teacher like me.

I'm currently a teacher in the public schools serving in an inner city senior high. I am certified to teach everything in the social studies curriculum and pretty much have in the course of my career since 1990. I see and fight the LIBERAL AGENDA in school curriculum every day.

I do this by teaching the differences between subject, issue and agenda. Then I show all sides of all subjects....in doing so, every subject becomes an ISSUE.

Telling only ONE side of a SUBJECT creates an AGENDA.

You'd be surprised at the general reactions of students once they see how badly they have been conned by teachers, clergy and even parents their whole lives. I make them do the research and discuss the various agendas in all that we cover. I find that truth often (not always, but mostly) wins.

In some areas, kids are questioned about what goes on at home and encouraged to report parental behavior that is deemed incorrect by people in the school system. That ain't tin foil hat talk, it happens.

When our daughter was in elementary school, I used to warn her about things like that and one day she came home with a story of her social studies teacher (my field) asking the kids if their daddy owned any of those EVIL BLACK RIFLES. Well I had a parent teacher conference with that teacher and the principal right quick and I reamed them a NEW anal orifice on the spot. I brought those dreaded words "LAW SUIT" into the conversation and all that nonsense evaporated very quickly.

62 posted on 09/29/2010 12:21:18 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Zombie Hunters: We make dead things deader.)
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