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West warned that Islam insults risk ‘civilization clash’
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Posted on 09/29/2010 5:43:05 AM PDT by milestogo

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To: milestogo
I'll let Patrick Henry speak for me.
If we wish to be free -- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending -- if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak -- unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.

The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable -- and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come!

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!


41 posted on 09/29/2010 6:09:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: milestogo

Bring it on. I think plenty of people are getting sick of their constant whining, their veiled threats, their attempts at blackmailing other nations in order to subjugate them. We all know a full-on war with the Mohammaden world is coming.


42 posted on 09/29/2010 6:09:38 AM PDT by constitutiongirl ("Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal."---Leo Tolstoy)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
This is why we MUST start deporting ALL muslims from the entire western hemisphere. Force the Saudis to deal with their own and stop bringing them over here.

Exactly - why western civilized nations allow these people in is destroying their own culture! Whoever lets this happen is responsible for the ensuing bloodshed - not to mention so many of them turn up in western countries to sign up for welfare. How crazy is that? Radical Islam is incompatible with modern civilization, period.

43 posted on 09/29/2010 6:09:42 AM PDT by Aria ( "Remember, attitudes are contagious, so make sure yours are worth catching." Sarah Palin 9-18-2010)
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To: milestogo

Terrorism and threats of violence are CENTRAL to islam!!!!

Our mistake was not to say “nasty” things about islam, but to make concessions to it that show weakness. That INVITES more and more terrorism and subversion.

The VERY WORST thing was the evil campaign against the Orthodox Christian Serbs, and handing over most of Bosnia and all of Kosovo to the subversive, terroristic, and criminal muslims.

We need to apologize to the Serbs, pay Serbia reparations to allow her to rebuild her cities better than they were before, and to rearm Serbia with advanced weapons (short of nuclear). Then we need to get out of the way, and allow the Serbian people to reclaim their lands.


44 posted on 09/29/2010 6:09:49 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: milestogo

Question to offended muslims - what are you afraid of? Is your god so weak and insecure that he fears words?


45 posted on 09/29/2010 6:10:04 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Obama, Pelosi and Reid - the Trio of Twits)
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To: milestogo
Let's see, which religion & culture in this discussion has the reputation for intolerance of any other religion & society? Which one proudly proclaims that it is the end-all of all religions and that it's adherents must strive to convert everyone else in the world to this one religion by any and ALL means, including FORCE! All this while internal differences within Islam has been the single deadliest violent cause of loss of Islamists in the last century while the West has done more to save Islamic lives in that same time.

Remember the various earthquakes, typhoons and tsunamis that those various oil-rich Islamic communities sent profound sympathies while the West sent food, medicines and boots-on-the-ground? Pardon me if I feel your protests about this topic is less than valid in my viewpoint.

46 posted on 09/29/2010 6:10:12 AM PDT by SES1066 (If you don't vote in November, quit your bitchin!)
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To: milestogo

Islam attacking us, bombing, blowing up, cutting the heads off people from the West is what’s putting us in a “clash of civilizatons”.


47 posted on 09/29/2010 6:12:00 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: milestogo
UNITED NATIONS: Kings, emirs and presidents from Muslim nations have made pressing appeals to the United Nations for the West to clampdown on attacks on Islam which they warned is a growing threat to international security.

Why would UNaccountable bureaucrat$/dhimmi$/enabler$ $ay that?

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians AND their enablers.

48 posted on 09/29/2010 6:13:39 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: milestogo

This is about freedoms and religion.
America is free and any God or god can be worshiped here.
They are the ones who need to step up to the plate.
Let’s see some freedom in their countries and religion.


49 posted on 09/29/2010 6:14:26 AM PDT by Ramonne
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To: milestogo
Egypt’s Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit condemned “regrettable and appalling incidents that have increasingly touched Muslims and Islam, repeatedly and sometimes systematically in certain cases.”

Look, a**hole, when you stop your fellow muslim vermin from attacking Christians, burning churches, raping Christian children, stoning those who leave your evil cult and plotting terror attacks... then we'll talk. Until then, em-effer...STFU.

50 posted on 09/29/2010 6:14:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Ramonne
Islam is submission. Freedom and Liberty are an abomination to them.

The Constitution of the US is incompatible with Islam/Sharia. One must prevail and one must be defeated.

The line is drawn, and Muslims have crossed it.

51 posted on 09/29/2010 6:20:50 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Why does the Left think Muslims are going to behave as Christians?)
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To: milestogo

Islam and its adherents need to be wiped off the face of the earth.


52 posted on 09/29/2010 6:24:27 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: sauropod

You confuse oversensitivity with murderous tendencies.


53 posted on 09/29/2010 6:25:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: milestogo

Islam is as Islam does. If they want us to ‘like’ them more, they need to do something. Clean their own house. It’s not up to us to pacify and appease them. It’s up to them to clamp down on their own kind before we do it for them.


54 posted on 09/29/2010 6:30:57 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Instead of building a grand mosque at Ground Zero, let's build a Ground Zero at their Grand Mosque.)
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To: DoughtyOne

After all what are those things compared with threatening to burn a book, object to the building of a mosque and defacing some symbols. Hurt feelings are a travesty. /s


55 posted on 09/29/2010 6:36:28 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: milestogo

I was already operating under the assumption that we were beyond clashing civilizations and had already moved to war.

They made the first overt strikes.

They are going to infect the world and spread to the farthest corners. You must be ready to be an antibiotic because the infection is systemic and goes all the way to the top.

America may be the only country left standing but only because we are armed and forewarned. They cannot be allowed to achieve their goal of taking the planet.

So, bring it sunshine.


56 posted on 09/29/2010 6:44:30 AM PDT by RedHerringHack (Just a patriot.)
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57 posted on 09/29/2010 6:45:52 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Never on my watch

Pretty good line there...


58 posted on 09/29/2010 9:23:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yes, too true... ;^)


59 posted on 09/29/2010 9:24:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: greatplains

Yes, I think you’ve nailed it. Those things are nothing to the outlandish abuses you mentioned. Har...


60 posted on 09/29/2010 9:29:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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