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Judicial Watch uncovers FDA records detailing 16 new deaths tied to Gardisil
judicialwatch.com ^ | September 28, 2010 | Unattributed

Posted on 09/29/2010 3:14:51 PM PDT by MamaDearest

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To: MamaDearest
Around the world, Cervarix and another version, Gardasil, have been linked to 30 deaths as well as cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome - a little-understood immune disorder.

Guillain Barre has an incidence rate of 1 or 2 per 100,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain_Barre_Syndrome

Since there have been 1.4 million people given Gardisil in Britian and many more around the world, you would expect to have some of those people come down with GBS unrelated to the Gardisil.

You would also expect some to get sick and die from other causes unrelated to Gardisil from a pool of millions.

So how are these deaths linked to Gardisil other than comming in the weeks following the vaccination. I don't see anything in the Judicial Watch report that actually ties the illnesses or deaths to Gardisil.

21 posted on 09/29/2010 4:42:00 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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I don't really see what in those reports tie the deaths to Gardisil.

That's why we post these articles, so you can make your own determination to receive the vaccine.

22 posted on 09/29/2010 4:42:57 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

Like I said, $100+ million and not much to show for it. JW is a nonprofit too. Charity for lawyers.


23 posted on 09/29/2010 4:45:07 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: MamaDearest

I was just discussing this with my dentist and his assistant today. I happen to be doing research in this area, so they asked.

I do not think that Gardasil is in any way harmful, and nothing in the article indicated otherwise. Just from chance alone, you expect to see a certain number of people having adverse medical conditions after receiving a vaccine.

But: there are over 100 different human papillomaviruses (HPVs). The Gardasil only protects against 4. Two of those, 16 and 18, are the most oncogenic (cancer-causing) of the HPVs. However, anyone thinking they’re going to absolutely protect their daughters by getting them that vaccine is wrong: there are still over 100 HPVs out there that those girls won’t be protected against. So, in weighing the cost/benefit of the vaccine, that is what I would consider. And I don’t know what my final decision would be.


24 posted on 09/29/2010 5:25:13 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: MamaDearest
That's why we post these articles, so you can make your own determination to receive the vaccine.

The article doesn't give you any context by which to evaluate the data. It doesn't even provide you enough data from which you can reasonably understand the risks or compare them to the benefits.

Saying that these deaths and illnesses are tied to Gardisil makes it sound like it has been determined that they were caused by Gardisil which seems at best misleading. You don't help people make informed decision by providing information in a misleading way and excluding any information that might put it in a useful context isn't helping people make informed decisions.

These are important issues. These vaccines do save lives. They also present some risks. However scaring people away from them without solid reason may very well put them at increased risk. Don't you think you have an obligation to try and present the information in a less biased way?

25 posted on 09/29/2010 5:32:50 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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The article doesn't give you any context by which to evaluate the data. It doesn't even provide you enough data from which you can reasonably understand the risks or compare them to the benefits.

You don't help people make informed decision by providing information in a misleading way and excluding any information that might put it in a useful context isn't helping people make informed decisions.

Don't you think you have an obligation to try and present the information in a less biased way?

That's a lot of accusation and information you're asking of me from an article I didn't write. I posted it because it appears there have been deaths and reactions to the vacccine, It's informative for those who wish to delve further into the product. If you want more information, please seek it on the internet. By your standards, no one would post anything here on FR and I will NOT be bullied for posting an article. Take your accusatory questions up with the people who wrote the article please!

26 posted on 09/29/2010 7:34:12 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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I agree with you 100%. It’s a personal decision and one that needs investigation and review. I do believe that weighing in the side-effects of the vaccine is very important, besides the cost and benefits you mention.


27 posted on 09/29/2010 7:37:17 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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PLacemark for tomorrow.


28 posted on 09/29/2010 9:33:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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By your standards, no one would post anything here on FR and I will NOT be bullied for posting an article. Take your accusatory questions up with the people who wrote the article please!

You are right. I got carried away and was way out of line. Please accept my apologies. You are not responsible for the irresponsible acts of others.

I would caution that you should try not to propagate information that has been skewed in such a way that is misleads people. However, it is ultimately the fault of the people that skewed the information, not yours.

29 posted on 09/30/2010 6:29:44 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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I would caution that you should try not to propagate information that has been skewed in such a way that is misleads people. However, it is ultimately the fault of the people that skewed the information, not yours.

Apology accepted. Please understand everyone posting here is entitled to their opinion. In no way did I ever attempt to make you believe in my opinion, if one was given. I have granddaughters and their health and safety is of utmost concern to me. If ANYTHING appears to be a threat to them or their parents, I want them to know the threat exists and then they can make their own decisions how to deal with it.

30 posted on 09/30/2010 8:15:55 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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