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British Pundit Virginia Ironside: "Smother Disabled Child With Pillow," Use Abortion
Life News ^ | 10/5/10 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 10/05/2010 4:09:26 PM PDT by wagglebee

London, England (LifeNews.com) -- British television pundit Virginia Ironside is drawing gasps from pro-life advocates from across the globe for advocating killing disabled children. She said any "good mother" would smother a disabled child with a pillow because of the frustration bringing up such a baby would pose.

"If I were the mother of a suffering child -- I mean a deeply suffering child -- I would be the first to want to put a pillow over its face," Ironside said in a video clip of a new BBC television interview she gave.

"If it was a child I really loved, who was in agony, I think any good mother would," she adds.

The host of the program was so shocked by the statement, that, as another guest was about to be introduced, she called the remarks a "horrifying thing."

But Ironside went further -- advocating abortions for children who are diagnosed in the womb with severe disabilities.

"If a baby’s going to be born severely disabled or totally unwanted, surely an abortion is the act of a loving mother," she said.

Reverend Joanna Jepson, the other guest, was left stunned in amazement at the comments. She was born with a severe birth defect, since corrected in a minor surgery, that left her top and bottom jaws considerably out of alignment. She has advocated for the rights of disabled children who are targeted for abortions even for minor issues such as a cleft palate.

Patrick Archbold responded to the remarks in a post at the National Catholic Register.

"This goes to show that no principle of civilization, no precept -- no matter how holy, authentic, or certain -- cannot be twisted into the service of evil. Murder as an act of love," he said. "If Ironside had her way, people like Jepson and her disabled brother would never have been born or perhaps lovingly smothered to death."

"You might think that all this is some wicked theoretical exercise on the part of Ironside, alas no. Ironside willingly recounts the tales of her two abortions. The second of which she professed to be for the good of her baby," he continues.

"Ironside’s horrifying statements are the logical extension of many of the arguments in favor of abortion and euthanasia, but simply taken to their utilitarian ends. And she is not alone," Archbold concluded. "The only good that comes out of this is the glimmer of hope that such things still have the ability to shock."

YouTube: Virginia Ironside would be willing to smother a sick child


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; disabilities; moralabsolutes; prolife
"Ironside’s horrifying statements are the logical extension of many of the arguments in favor of abortion and euthanasia, but simply taken to their utilitarian ends. And she is not alone," Archbold concluded.

I'm actually starting to believe that her thinking is the norm among many in the culture of death.

1 posted on 10/05/2010 4:09:29 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 10/05/2010 4:10:10 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Too bad her own mom didn’t take her advice with her.


3 posted on 10/05/2010 4:10:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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4 posted on 10/05/2010 4:10:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I think it has become normal in parts of Godless Europe and Asia.


5 posted on 10/05/2010 4:10:57 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: wagglebee

Well then why not a 24 year old, or 19 year old? Why stop at new-born?


6 posted on 10/05/2010 4:13:22 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wagglebee

I think that’s the same monster Glenn Beck did a segment on yesterday. What a disgusting and horrible creature she is.


7 posted on 10/05/2010 4:14:48 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: wagglebee

Confirming the ‘slippery slope’ theory. Sort of like the narrow gap between socialism and fascism.


8 posted on 10/05/2010 4:15:34 PM PDT by Spok (Is it RINO season yet?)
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To: wagglebee

It is the norm on the left and in the circle that Obama hangs with.


9 posted on 10/05/2010 4:16:17 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: wagglebee
The disabled and advocates for them really need to pay attention. If the pro-death crowd ever establishes euthanasia for the very old and very sick, disabled folks will be next.
10 posted on 10/05/2010 4:16:44 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: wagglebee

Great Britain deserves it’s Mohammedan future.


11 posted on 10/05/2010 4:16:51 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: wagglebee
I'm actually starting to believe that her thinking is the norm among many in the culture of death.

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I wonder when British common law expunged the basic Biblical principle:

Thou Shalt Not Kill

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? ? ? ? ? ? ?

12 posted on 10/05/2010 4:18:51 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Kolokotronis

A dead soul is the hallmark of the fabian marxist, and this pitiful thing is just that a fabian marxist. Dead in soul, worship killing as enlightened behavior. It’s for the children don’tchaknow.


13 posted on 10/05/2010 4:19:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

If you listen to her carefully, she first disenfranchises the target ‘child’ as a mass of cells, nothing more, even though the ‘child’ in question would be well past birth. One is left to wonder, is it the illness which transforms the child into nothing more than a mass of cells in this demon’s eyes?


14 posted on 10/05/2010 4:23:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: colorado tanker
If the pro-death crowd ever establishes euthanasia for the very old and very sick, disabled folks will be next.

The disabled are actually first on their list; look at Terri Schiavo, she was perfectly healthy (she had a life expectancy of at least thirty more years when she was killed).

15 posted on 10/05/2010 4:26:11 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

The eugenicists got their asses kicked in WWII. Guess it is time to do it again. You do realize that people that make statements like this is usually a intentional trial balloon to measure public reaction to push forward a public social/government agenda.


16 posted on 10/05/2010 4:27:39 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: wagglebee
If a baby’s going to be born severely disabled or totally unwanted, surely an abortion is the act of a loving mother," she said.

The sound of the same voice heard in the Garden of Eden and in the Temptation of Christ. It's never about the child, it's all about them...even in this the lie..."a loving mother would do"...steers the ignorant to not do so makes one an unloving mother. With that attitude about life...people as this will surely then understand Gods verdict on them on judgement day. Though He will not spare them the decision they made for themselves.

17 posted on 10/05/2010 4:30:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: wagglebee

The logical infinite loop that presently takes up my time is the fact that the very purveyers of this tripe would be the most obvious targets for this type of treatment.

Think of how much better the world would be if Mohammed, Lenin Stalin, Marx, Hitler, and OK here it comes, Obama had been properly aborted due to lack of IQ potential.


18 posted on 10/05/2010 4:32:03 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Walkingfeather
Guess it is time to do it again. You do realize that people that make statements like this is usually a intentional trial balloon to measure public reaction to push forward a public social/government agenda.

Exactly!

Look at Terri Schiavo, they stretched the run-up to her murder out over months and then killed her slowly with around-the-clock news coverage while the entire world watched and took polls the entire time to gauge which talking points the public was most receptive to.

19 posted on 10/05/2010 4:34:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: stockpirate

“Well then why not a 24 year old, or 19 year old? Why stop at new-born?”

It’s already happening with euthanasia.

It won’t be long, we’re through as a civilization.


20 posted on 10/05/2010 4:40:16 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: GeronL
Become normal. You're implying that it is something new. I don't think so.
21 posted on 10/05/2010 4:41:53 PM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: Cacique
It is the norm on the left and in the circle that Obama hangs with.

It never occurred to me that Democrats were into smothering babies. What's next? What's next??

22 posted on 10/05/2010 4:44:47 PM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: Misterioso
now, now, don't forget, they are the party of keeping our kids safe, watching out for the elderly, feeding the hungry
- JUST AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIAL NEEDS!!!! or if it is inconvenient, or if it will cost us more in health costs, or....!
why isn't that clear?
23 posted on 10/05/2010 4:51:59 PM PDT by small farm girl
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To: wagglebee

When I read stories like this, and there are many throughout the year from the pro-death crowd, I always wonder: what hatred they must harbor in their twisted minds of their very own mother who gave birth to these demented demons?

Did these pro-death proponents secretly wish that they themselves were never born, or that they wished their mothers had smothered them after kissing them tenderly for a good night’s sleep?

And what about the women who write such violent prose: do they secretly wish they had smothered their own children? What evil lurks inside their twisted minds that they publicly proclaim that unborn life is not worth living.

Pol Pot decreed that anyone who wore glasses was to be exterminated because if you wore glasses you could read, and therefore you could think for yourself.

It’s clear the our Muslim president’s record as an Illinois state senator that he thinks like Pol Pot when it comes to exterminating the unborn, and also those unfortunate enough to survive the butcher’s scalpel scraping away a living human lifeform inside the womb. BO Plenty wanted doctors to finish their bloody butchery if the child survived a botched abortion. What depravity motivates such wicked thinking by our Muslim POTUS. Does he hate all of us or just white people?


24 posted on 10/05/2010 4:56:17 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: wagglebee

These are not normal humans with normal human emotions. They are like witches or fiends.


25 posted on 10/05/2010 4:57:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: mohresearcher
I think Zero hates everyone (or at least the puppetmaster does).
26 posted on 10/05/2010 4:59:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
It is
27 posted on 10/05/2010 4:59:52 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: wagglebee
virginia
28 posted on 10/05/2010 5:13:15 PM PDT by 2sheds
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To: small farm girl
why isn't that clear?

I don't know. What do you think?

29 posted on 10/05/2010 5:25:02 PM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: MHGinTN
These are scary people....

Thanks for the feedback!

30 posted on 10/05/2010 6:53:45 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: wagglebee

What perverted, twisted thinking.

Unreal......


31 posted on 10/05/2010 9:41:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

The culture of death people have NO clue what love is really all about.

I Corinthians 13:4-7 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.


32 posted on 10/05/2010 9:43:36 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

I take it if she were the one in pain, she’d smother herself rather than take medication to relieve it?


33 posted on 10/05/2010 9:46:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stockpirate

Absolutely no reason at all, except the 19yo or 24yo
might be stronger than the murderer.


34 posted on 10/06/2010 11:04:18 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: All
Pinged from Terri Dailies


35 posted on 10/10/2010 9:36:45 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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