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Five Reasons to Switch to Windows Phone 7
PCWorld ^ | October 08, 2010 | Tony Bradley

Posted on 10/08/2010 11:00:20 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

It's not here yet, but next week Microsoft is hosting a media event where it is expected to unveil launch details for the highly-anticipated Windows Phone 7 platform. With Microsoft's virtual absence from the smartphone arena in recent years, and the rise of iPhone and Android, Windows Phone 7 may be too little, too late. However, there are a few compelling reasons to take a closer look and consider making a switch to Windows Phone 7.

1. Hubs. The hubs concept is one of the smartphone paradigm shifts imagined by Microsoft. Grouping apps and functions based on general categories is an innovative and effective means of navigating the smartphone. Case in point--since Apple introduced the ability to nest apps in folders under iOS 4.0 I have essentially gone through and implemented a similar concept by creating categorized folders and housing the appropriate apps there. The iPhone version just requires more manual effort on my part.

2. Tiles. Rather than a smartphone display filled with little app icons a' la iPhone, or Android (or a Windows PC), Windows Phone 7 uses tiles. These large squares let you see at-a-glance what is going on in your connected mobile world. How many e-mails have arrived, how many phone calls or voicemail messages have come in, or what's new on your social networks. There are apps and push notifications on iPhone and Android that perform similar functions, but not as clearly and intuitively as the Windows Phone 7 tiles.

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3. Try-Before-You-Buy. Microsoft lets you try out apps before deciding whether or not to purchase them. I have wasted a fair amount of money buying iPhone apps only to find out they don't really do what I need, or just suck at what they do. Even apps that are free place a burden on me to then uninstall them. Having the ability to check out an app before purchasing is a significant value for users, and will also benefit developers--at least the ones that make decent apps.

4. Email. Windows Phone 7 provides native Exchange access with Active Sync updates, and allows users to connect with multiple Exchange accounts. Windows Phone 7 also supports third-party e-mail such as Gmail

5. Integration. Windows Phone 7 is a platform that combines Office productivity, Exchange e-mail, Xbox Live gaming, search, music, and voice communications. Granted, that is not all that unique in a smartphone these days. In fact, it's more of a baseline requirement. But, Windows Phone 7 meshes the various elements of your digital life together more seamlessly and intuitively than other smartphones--especially for users that are already more or less Microsoft-centric in other areas.

1 posted on 10/08/2010 11:00:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I see a total 0 reasons in your article summary. ‘Nuff said. iPhone won a long time ago.

(yes, this is a flame.)


2 posted on 10/08/2010 11:03:00 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
(yes, this is a flame.)

'tis a damp paper match.

3 posted on 10/08/2010 11:04:49 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: SmokingJoe

Last I heard, Microsoft is not supporting the synching of their OWN devices with Outlook 2010.


4 posted on 10/08/2010 11:06:33 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: lefty-lie-spy
(yes, this is a flame.)

Not much of a flame with such a small wick!

5 posted on 10/08/2010 11:07:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: ShadowAce

ring ring ping


6 posted on 10/08/2010 11:09:32 AM PDT by herewego ( Got .45?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Touché ;)


7 posted on 10/08/2010 11:14:35 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Not committing to any phone hardware or OS yet but WP7 is definitely on my short list.

I like the WP7 'hub' interface design - actually I'd like most anything but a screen full of tiny icons. I love the Office/Live/Zune integration. The ability to test apps before buying is a huge plus I'd not heard about until now.

That said, I'm wary of WP7's limited multitasking - a lot like iOS. It might prove to be no problem at all but would like to know more. Also, I'd probably miss cut-and-paste if that doesn't make it into WP7.

8 posted on 10/08/2010 11:16:28 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Touché ;)

I would lose my comedian license if I didn't take advantage of that one!

It's not personal.

9 posted on 10/08/2010 11:20:30 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: SmokingJoe

People still use phones?


10 posted on 10/08/2010 11:20:46 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: SmokingJoe; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

11 posted on 10/08/2010 11:21:30 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: DesertSapper
That said, I'm wary of WP7's limited multitasking - a lot like iOS. It might prove to be no problem at all but would like to know more. Also, I'd probably miss cut-and-paste if that doesn't make it into WP7.

Both multitasking and cut/paste will be in the next revision which you should expect to debut in less than a year.

12 posted on 10/08/2010 11:22:26 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: SmokingJoe
I ran an HTC Mogul with Windows Mobile 6.x for over three years. They suck donkey balls.

Anyone buying a Windows Mobile 7 phone will be just like the suckers who bought a Microsoft Zune. You get what you deserve.

Android or iPhone. One or the other. That's the only way to go.

13 posted on 10/08/2010 11:23:54 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: DesertSapper

After almost 2 years with an iPhone, just recently upgraded from 3G to 4, I haven’t found cut & paste to be that bit of a deal. I almost never use it, and it wouldn’t really impact me much if it wasn’t available.

I’m really looking forward to getting a WP7 - I’ll give my iPhone 4 to my wife and never look back. I’m REALLY looking forward to un-installing iTunes. I hate it. I also have a Zune HD, and the Zune software is much better than iTunes.


14 posted on 10/08/2010 11:25:51 AM PDT by msgt (Press any key to continue...Press any other key to quit.)
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To: SmokingJoe

DILLIGAF?


15 posted on 10/08/2010 11:26:28 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: All

unless MS starts giving away their phones for free ala Netscape obliteration, I don’t see how they can catch up.

Google android is snoopy and intrusive on privacy in order to collect marketing data.

Iphone has a company store reservation.

But both now have loyal followings.

Why would an iphone or android user switch to Phone 7?


16 posted on 10/08/2010 11:32:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmokingJoe

Can you write your own apps and load them directly without going through M$?


17 posted on 10/08/2010 11:42:24 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Erik Latranyi
Both multitasking and cut/paste will be in the next revision which you should expect to debut in less than a year.

Showing how WP7 is still WAY behind. By then Android 3.x will be mature and shipping on all Android phones, and Apple will probably be at iOS 5. Microsoft, always forgetting to lead moving targets.

18 posted on 10/08/2010 11:47:48 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: SmokingJoe
Hubs. The hubs concept is one of the smartphone paradigm shifts imagined by Microsoft. Grouping apps and functions based on general categories is an innovative and effective means of navigating the smartphone. Case in point--since Apple introduced the ability to nest apps in folders under iOS 4.0 I have essentially gone through and implemented a similar concept by creating categorized folders and housing the appropriate apps there. The iPhone version just requires more manual effort on my part.

Uh. My Palm Centro has this, and its OS has been around since the mid-1990s. Not exactly groundbreaking.

19 posted on 10/08/2010 11:53:08 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: longtermmemmory
Google android is snoopy and intrusive on privacy in order to collect marketing data.

I believe Microsoft was describing WP7 as an advertising cash cow. I wouldn't expect much privacy with WP7 either.

20 posted on 10/08/2010 11:54:09 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I was really looking forward to Maemo, but it never really got going before it was absorbed into the less-interesting MeeGo.


21 posted on 10/08/2010 11:57:04 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: DesertSapper; lefty-lie-spy; ShadowAce; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; tubebender; blam; ..
Meanwhile...we have:

Samsung ships 5 million Galaxy S smartphones

And Apple has shipped even more...and has the iPad....

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////////////////////////////////////////////////////??

What a flood of stuff....


22 posted on 10/08/2010 12:11:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SmokingJoe
Even apps that are free place a burden on me to then uninstall them.

Wouldn't you have to uninstall "try before you buy" apps you didn't want to buy?

23 posted on 10/08/2010 12:14:21 PM PDT by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: B Knotts
Speaking of Palm....

Wonder what in the H...***l HP is going to do with that acquisition...?

24 posted on 10/08/2010 12:15:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Showing how WP7 is still WAY behind. By then Android 3.x will be mature and shipping on all Android phones, and Apple will probably be at iOS 5. Microsoft, always forgetting to lead moving targets.

Do you think Excel will ever catch up to Lotus 1-2-3?

25 posted on 10/08/2010 12:22:56 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: SmokingJoe

N/a for me because I work at a company that doesn’t allow camera phones. I have an old Motorola phone that I can still use because it doesn’t have a camera. Just as well probably.


26 posted on 10/08/2010 12:32:56 PM PDT by McGruff (I Love the Smell of Desperation in the Morning. Smells like Victory!)
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To: tacticalogic
Do you think Excel will ever catch up to Lotus 1-2-3?

Excel only won because Lotus was slow in bringing 123 to the dominant Windows platform. Microsoft has no such leverage here, and WP7 isn't even compatible with earlier Windows Mobile applications.

27 posted on 10/08/2010 12:48:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Excel only won because Lotus was slow in bringing 123 to the dominant Windows platform. Microsoft has no such leverage here, and WP7 isn't even compatible with earlier Windows Mobile applications.

That's amazing. Microsoft can get trashed in one arena for keeping things backward compatible, and trashed on another for not doing it.

28 posted on 10/08/2010 12:58:17 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Android is beating iPhone in the US.


29 posted on 10/08/2010 1:00:23 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Not much of a flame with such a small wick!

Oh, my.

30 posted on 10/08/2010 1:02:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: kevkrom
Wouldn't you have to uninstall "try before you buy" apps you didn't want to buy?

That was my first thought too, but if they're drawing the distinction, maybe you're trying it out in proxy online, or maybe if you don't buy it by the end of the trial period, it uninstalls itself.

31 posted on 10/08/2010 1:06:48 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Touché ;) I would lose my comedian license if I didn't take advantage of that one! It's not personal.


I know. That's why its funny. Now if this were DU, well, you might call me an @$$hole or something, but we're compassionate bigot, racist, homophobes here, and have a sense of humor to boot.

(I've always wondered about the etymology of that idiom, so, http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=boot)
32 posted on 10/08/2010 1:07:48 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Showing how WP7 is still WAY behind. By then Android 3.x will be mature and shipping on all Android phones, and Apple will probably be at iOS 5. Microsoft, always forgetting to lead moving targets.

What IOS was iPhone on when Android launched? And already Android is selling more than iPhones in the US. Nothing is permenant. Not saying Windows Phone 7 is great (haven't seen it yet), but this market is too new to declare someone the victor already.

33 posted on 10/08/2010 1:08:19 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: longtermmemmory
Google android is snoopy and intrusive on privacy in order to collect marketing data.

Is there a patch/workaround for this yet? I'm interested in Android but not interested in giving Google any information, for free or any other way. Well, maybe a picture of my bare, hairy azz, but that's it.

34 posted on 10/08/2010 1:09:43 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SmokingJoe

6. The BSOD on a cell phone is smaller and cuter.


35 posted on 10/08/2010 1:10:39 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: msgt

Cut and paste is not a big deal!? I find that amazing. If I couldn’t quote FR posts from my iPhone it would be useless. I use my phone as a personal computer and mail client more than my desktop. If you don’t have a need for cut and paste, you must not be using your phone to the fullest of its computer abilities.


36 posted on 10/08/2010 1:11:27 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Speaking of Palm.... Wonder what in the H...***l HP is going to do with that acquisition...?


The same thing Carly did with Compaq; kill it and company profits.

Besides her being a RINO, that was the thing that really pissed me off about that acquisition. I met her once when I worked at the Roseville, CA campus doing desktop support. Nice lady, but not sure of her political future in this Tea Party climate. RINOs have no place in our world. Lew Platt was a decent dude too. Then there was the Agilent spinoff and their acquisition of the company I worked for and....well, fun times back then.
37 posted on 10/08/2010 1:19:57 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: SmokingJoe

No tethering.
No cut and paste.

I’ll stick with my HTC Touch Pro 2 (Tilt2), that supports BOTH of these features.


38 posted on 10/08/2010 1:20:06 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder (Press want Obama = “Camelot II - The Return of JFK”, not “Peanuts II - that’s all you’ll have l)
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To: for-q-clinton
Android is beating iPhone in the US.

And Obama is a centrist who is bringing people together and lowering the oceans.
39 posted on 10/08/2010 1:23:44 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: B Knotts

This is the same mess that led to the Dot Com Bust of the late 1990’s — people repacking the same old ideas as something new, and companies dumping millions of investment dollars into the development of nothing. Eventually, they look around and realize that nothing new has been created and all of those dollars have gone up in smoke. The Emperor has no clothes.


40 posted on 10/08/2010 1:25:38 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Besides her being a RINO, that was the thing that really pissed me off about that acquisition. I met her once when I worked at the Roseville, CA campus doing desktop support. Nice lady, but not sure of her political future in this Tea Party climate. RINOs have no place in our world. Lew Platt was a decent dude too. Then there was the Agilent spinoff and their acquisition of the company I worked for and....well, fun times back then.

I saw her once making some comments in defense of offshoring engineering and manufacturing positions, to the effect that no one should feel they have right to a given job. OK, then explain why they didn't keep the tech jobs here and offshore the board.

41 posted on 10/08/2010 1:27:25 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SmokingJoe
I don't like ANY cell phones and hate the fact that I need one.

The new Microsoft entry will be easy for me to do without.

Usually, holding out until loads of improvements are made, pays off in the long run.

I'm thinking that within a year or so a clear winner will emerge and I can make my selection.

That having been said, I used to jump on every computer bandwagon that came along and as a result, I have in my closet TRS-80 Model I and Model II, a TI-994a (with Extended BASIC and extra RAM), a Commodore 64 and a 128, and the computer I thought showed great promise, The Amiga.

42 posted on 10/08/2010 1:59:07 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: for-q-clinton
What IOS was iPhone on when Android launched? And already Android is selling more than iPhones in the US.

You still forget one manufacturer on one carrier in only the high-end vs. almost all manufacturers on all carriers from low- to high-end. That creates relative volume for Android. WP7 will be high-end only (at least initially, the minimum specs discount low-end phones) and still have to compete with Android on the volume.

I'm not discounting Microsoft completely. Microsoft could still get a lot of the market by strong-arming manufacturers and threatening to sue.

43 posted on 10/08/2010 2:25:47 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: tacticalogic
Microsoft can get trashed in one arena for keeping things backward compatible, and trashed on another for not doing it.

I appreciate that Microsoft didn't make it backwards compatible for once. It lets them lose the Windows Mobile crud and the chains to the stylus. I'm just saying that means Microsoft won't be able to leverage backwards compatibility as has always been done in order to increase marketshare.

44 posted on 10/08/2010 2:30:55 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: martin_fierro; SmokingJoe
> 6. The BSOD on a cell phone is smaller and cuter.

Now -that- is funny!

And the blue color is prettier. Not that original isn't pretty at full size too -- and has better contours:


45 posted on 10/08/2010 2:48:07 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; martin_fierro; SmokingJoe

And yes, I know that the BSOD is properly the Windows/NT screen, not the Windows/DOS screen, but I haven’t seen an NT BSOD tshirt pic with those contours yet.


46 posted on 10/08/2010 2:51:29 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I appreciate that Microsoft didn't make it backwards compatible for once. It lets them lose the Windows Mobile crud and the chains to the stylus. I'm just saying that means Microsoft won't be able to leverage backwards compatibility as has always been done in order to increase marketshare.

I don't think backward compatibility with the old WinMo apps is going to be much of an issue. And I think anybody who's ready to declare long term winners and losers in this at this point is severly myopic.

47 posted on 10/08/2010 3:10:36 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: for-q-clinton
What IOS was iPhone on when Android launched?

2.1. An early review of WP7 said it was like MS locked their programmers in a room with the original iPhone and said compete with this. Not a good starting spot.
48 posted on 10/08/2010 3:40:08 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Ro_Thunder
I’ll stick with my HTC Touch Pro 2 (Tilt2), that supports BOTH of these features.

I dropped my Touch Pro 2 and got an HTC HD2 from Telstra in Australia. Works incredible on AT&T and I have been playing with a 1 gigahertz processor since March while everybody else is just coming to the party.

49 posted on 10/08/2010 3:52:17 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Ro_Thunder

I love my tilt2. You need to load jackos on it though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617

This makes it the best phone on the planet.


50 posted on 10/08/2010 3:55:25 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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