Posted on 10/11/2010 11:45:44 AM PDT by Beave Meister
An Israeli rabbi has blessed the use of female spies in "honeytrap" or "honeypot" stings against terrorists, according to a study called "Illicit Sex for the Sake of National Security."
The ruling by Rabbi Ari Schvat, contained in a study published by the Zomet Institute, was first reported by the news agency DPA and published by Haaretz.com.
Israeli officials confirmed the rabbinical ruling and the gist of the study for ABC News.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
“I gave America’s nuclear launch codes to a beautiful Israeli Mossad agent after she blew me a kiss.”
Safer there than with Obama.
Who did that painting?
Esther was married to the King. The ten commandments bar adultery and don’t mention exceptions if it helps your country. I know that Deuteronomy condemns allowing your daughters to be prostitutes. Where do you find the exception to that, Jewbacca?
Are you Jewish?
The word Honeypot is supposed to always be preceded by the word “Glistening”....
Is there an ad hominem or identity politics exception to the Ten Commandments? The rabbis quoted above condemned this Rabbi. He’s out there. Where do you draw your support for the idea that saving life means you can ignore the Ten Commandments? Could you turn away from the commandment to worship God alone to save your families or countries skin?
No, I’m not Jewish. I’m Christian, so we don’t have to worry about strict or legalistic sabbath adherence, Christ made clear that you can pick up food if you are hungry, or save an animal that is in danger and under your care, etc., even on the Sabbath. I worry about a view of faith that rejects the fundamental law given to Moses, on adultery, murder, worship of only God. Christians understand that there are moments of choice that can lead to death to follow God’s will. So I’m not asking for Talmudic support, I’m honestly asking for Biblical support that the Ten Commandments are optional if you reason that human life is at stake. Word of God, not word of man.
I don’t talk Jewish theology with non-Jewish people, sorry.
No common basis if you stray from the Bible. If you can stick to it, a discussion can be productive.
It’s improper for Jewish people to have such discussions, sorry.
So telling a Christian that adultery and state sponsored prostitution is ok for Jews if it may potentially help save lives, but discussing that idea in light of the Bible is off limits? I think I understand what you are saying, but it really doesn’t hold up logically.
My view is that you are off base theologically, even within your faith, and I base that in part on my knowledge of the Bible and in part on the rejection of this rabbi’s view by the rabbis quoted above.
I’ll leave it at that and hope we find something we agree on to discuss one day.
No. None of the instructions are for non-Jewish people.
Do whatever you want, under your applicable precepts.
18 “For I know [2] their works and their thoughts, and the time is coming [3] to gather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and shall see my glory, 19 and I will set a sign among them. And from them I will send survivors to the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, who draw the bow, to Tubal and Javan, to the coastlands far away, that have not heard my fame or seen my glory. And they shall declare my glory among the nations. 20 And they shall bring all your brothers from all the nations as an offering to the Lord, on horses and in chariots and in litters and on mules and on dromedaries, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, says the Lord, just as the Israelites bring their grain offering in a clean vessel to the house of the Lord. 21 And some of them also I will take for priests and for Levites, says the Lord.
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