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To: Red Steel; rxsid; Spaulding; patlin
Photobucket Need meaning of quoad Jus Civitatem.
1,115 posted on 10/18/2010 8:42:51 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

BP1 translated here.

http://translate.google.com/#la|en|quoad%20Jus%20Civitatem


1,120 posted on 10/18/2010 8:56:41 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: bushpilot1
quoad in law refers to “as it to this (or) as far as”. We know “naturam” refers to nature so the phrase in latin would read as follows:

“and were children only as to nature”

jus refers to law and of course civitatem (noun) is the citizen

so the children of slaves were not according to the law, citizens, they were merely the natural children of slaves that held no political status.

The term "quoad naturam" is used in many theological studies of religion & the bible. Here is an example:

By the law is the knowledge of sin, quoad naturam peccati (transgression, sin). There are many things we should never know but by the law of God, though we have some general notions of good and evil. Rom. vii. 7, saith the apostle, ‘I had not known sin but by the law; for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.’ Those first stirrings and secret lingerings of heart and inclinations to that which is cross to the will of God, that they go before all consent of will, and all delight, these things we could never discern by the light of nature.

1,132 posted on 10/18/2010 10:10:26 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: bushpilot1
here is another example from bible translation:

Heb 11: 16

Nunc vero meliorem appetunt, id est, coelestem; quare non erubescit Deus vocari Deus ipsorum, paravit enim illus civitatem.

translated and defined by John Calvin as:

translation - 15-16. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. [16]But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

defined - 16. Wherefore God is not ashamed, etc. He refers to that passage, “I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” (Exodus 3:6.) It is a singular honor when God makes men illustrious, by attaching his name to them; and designs thus to have himself distinguished from idols. This privilege, as the Apostle teaches us, depends also on faith; for when the holy fathers aspired to a celestial country, God on the other hand counted them as citizens. We are hence to conclude, that there is no place for us among God’s children, except we renounce the world, and that there will be for us no inheritance in heaven, except we become pilgrims on earth; Moreover, the Apostle justly concludes from these words, — “I am the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob,” that they were heirs of heaven, since he who thus speaks is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Ther is NOT one word in law that can not be defined by bible translation:

Summa Theologica

Whether right is the object of justice?

Augustine says (De Moribus Eccl. xv) that “justice is love serving God alone, and consequently governing aright all things subject to man.” Now right [jus] does not pertain to Divine things, but only to human affairs, for Isidore says (Etym. v, 2) that “’fas’ is the Divine law, and ‘jus,’ the human law.” Therefore right is not the object of justice.

On the contrary, Isidore says (Etym. v, 2) that “’jus’ [right] is so called because it is just.” Now the “just” is the object of justice, for the Philosopher declares (Ethic. v, 1) that “all are agreed in giving the name of justice to the habit which makes men capable of doing just actions.”

It stymies the mind how these drones think they can interpret law without going to the origins of the law. Our founders were very religious men & our country & government were founded for only a religious & moral society where a man would know the true intent & meaning of the law because they are/were learned in “The Book”. And people wonder why the progressive judges want to strip every speck of the Bible from our history, libraries, schools & especially government buildings. They can not handle the TRUTH.

1,139 posted on 10/18/2010 11:06:46 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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