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The First 10 City Pensions That Will Run Out Of Money (Just like the SS crisis - only worse)
Business Insider ^ | 10/12/10 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 10/14/2010 7:58:30 PM PDT by Libloather

The First 10 City Pensions That Will Run Out Of Money
Gus Lubin | Oct. 12, 2010, 10:52 AM

The municipal pension crisis is like the social security crisis but worse: Unlike the federal government, cities cannot legally go into debt.

This imminent disaster is described in a new paper out by Robert Novy-Marx and Joshua Rauh [PDF].

Novy-Marx and Rauh say most cities are burdened with unfunded liabilities, which are ignored by common accounting methods (see chart). Unfunded liabilities equal around $15,000 per household nationally, and up to $41,000 per household in some cities.

These cities are running out of money and will have to raise revenue or cut benefits to stay solvent.

Click here to see the cities >

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: money; pensions; security; social
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1 posted on 10/14/2010 7:58:33 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

That chart needs a fourth line, “current funding level”. (Which might be at or below zero.)


2 posted on 10/14/2010 8:00:41 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

“Unlike the federal government, cities cannot legally go into debt. “

Those states don’t need to worry, the Feds will bail them out.


3 posted on 10/14/2010 8:05:26 PM PDT by coaltrain (Obama's a Harvard lawyer like Elvis was a Black Belt)
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To: Libloather

Wow, Chicago at $42K/household unfunded.


4 posted on 10/14/2010 8:07:06 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Libloather
Unfunded liability: $44.8 billion

Unfunded liability per household: $41,966

Solvency horizon: 2019

Source: Robert Novy-Marx and Joshua Rauh [PDF]

OMG!!!!

5 posted on 10/14/2010 8:07:34 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Libloather

Freaking liberal politicians have been giving away money that doesn’t belong to them for so decades and it is finally catching up to them. Problem is that the solution is going to hurt and the retirees won’t care where the politicians have to go to get the money because they will move away to a lower tax city and state.


6 posted on 10/14/2010 8:09:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Libloather

I’m suprised to see Pittsburgh didn’t make the list.

This city is in pretty pitiful shape in regards to unfunded pensions, I guess a lot of other places are even worse off.


7 posted on 10/14/2010 8:10:46 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Libloather

I knew I’d see Cincinnati on there (#4) and that jackwagon mayor (Democrat of course) mark mallory is pushing spending billions on light rail by hook or crook.


8 posted on 10/14/2010 8:12:32 PM PDT by libs_kma (THEY TALK ABOUT HIM LIKE A DOG BECAUSE HE TREATS THIS COUNTRY LIKE A FIRE HYDRANT)
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To: 2banana

We are going to be bombarded with sob stories about the poor public employees when these pensions run dry. It will be tremendously sad. But those employees were sold a ponzi scheme. It will happen sooner than projected. Once the mobile families learn how bad it is they will run from those cities and destroy the tax base. It will be “Escape from New York” all over again. Those suburban communities around those urban areas will be looted and pillaged.

The cities need to crank down on the promises as much as they can to avoid disaster and starvation of the pensioners.


9 posted on 10/14/2010 8:15:45 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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To: I_Like_Spam

I’m surprised to see Ft. Worth DID make the list. :-(


10 posted on 10/14/2010 8:16:17 PM PDT by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling "Allah Snackbar")
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To: Libloather

Darn; I thought that Chicago would be #1 for sure. Even in failure we are doomed to be the second city.


11 posted on 10/14/2010 8:22:07 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: libs_kma
mark mallory is pushing spending billions on light rail by hook or crook.

Light rail and other public transit are viewed as "jobs programs" by minority municipal officials. Along with the urban school districts.

These facilities aren't run for the benefit of the city, or even the patrons, but for the employees.

12 posted on 10/14/2010 8:24:16 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: libs_kma
mark mallory is pushing spending billions on light rail by hook or crook.

Light rail and other public transit are viewed as "jobs programs" by minority municipal officials. Along with the urban school districts.

These facilities aren't run for the benefit of the city, or even the patrons, but for the employees.

13 posted on 10/14/2010 8:24:55 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

What happens when non-government workers pension plans get shot to hell as my 401K did, as well as probably about everybody else’s? We delay retirement as long as possible, downsize our expectations or get a job bagging groceries at the local Shop’N’Save. Why are government employees a special breed of cats who should just get to stick their hands into the taxpayer’s pockets?


14 posted on 10/14/2010 8:37:30 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Libloather
screw-em... they didn't care where the money would come from while extorting their exorbitant pensions, so it there ISN'T any, tough stuff.
15 posted on 10/14/2010 8:47:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Libloather

Little help please? I can’t get the list of 10 cities to load. Any one mind posting it for me?


16 posted on 10/14/2010 8:51:43 PM PDT by ransomnote
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10. Fort Worth

9,. Detroit.

8. Baltimore

7. New York City

6. Jacksonville

5. St. Paul

4. Cincinati

3. Boston

2. Chicago

1. Philadelphia.

These cities are facing pension apocalypse:

2024 - Seattle

2026 - Dallas

2027 - Houston, L.A., Miami, San Jose

2028 - Memphis, Milwaukee

2031 - Tacoma

17 posted on 10/14/2010 9:04:03 PM PDT by backslacker (In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form...)
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To: Libloather

AS far as I can tell, they are all DEMOCRAT run cities.


18 posted on 10/14/2010 9:11:58 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: GonzoGOP

Fear not; Chicago easily can catch the #1 position with just a few more corrupt debacles. A collapsing economy will help as will a beyond-bankrupt state government that never pays its bills or turns tax revenue to the City.


19 posted on 10/14/2010 9:12:00 PM PDT by dufekin (Name our lead enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Islamofascist terrorist dictator)
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To: coloradan
so what will happen?...will cities sell properties?..close libraries and sell them?....turn over fire and police to counties?....

and then what?....can they declare bankruptcy and get a get out of jail free card?

my hubby s company was able to declare bankruptcy and dump all the pensions and medical retirement benefits....giving a sliver of what was due....

it would only be fair for govt workers to suffer the same fate...

20 posted on 10/14/2010 9:14:46 PM PDT by cherry
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