Posted on 10/15/2010 9:11:27 AM PDT by Ptarmigan
The hostess reflected the education system that produced her. Traditionally, American education system taught people to think and think logically, that is back up their position with facts and reasoning.
Forty odd years ago the worse grade I could get was “GG” - glittering generality. If I didn't want a failing grade I had a week to redo the paper with twice the requirements - length, references, etc. Failing grades could result in a vacation in a real exotic location - SEA.
Unfortunately there is an education system in the world that actively discourages rational thought - the European one. There the class system still exists.
I wonder which educational method produced this hostess?
Agreed. Nobody respects the elderly, and apparently the elderly don't respect dress codes.
I like that manager. That was a really classy apology.
Somebody knows the value of “good will.”
Look, I'm a veteran and am sorry for what occurred. However, it's wrong for men & women of any age to go to a decent restaurant dressed like that. OK for McDonald's or Pizza Hut, but not a more upscale place. Tees me off to no end to see grown men in a restaurant wearing baseball caps & t-shirts...or to be covered anywhere indoors when in civilian clothes. And don't get me started on what people wear on airline flights. I'm not ancient, but I wear a suit or a coat & tie for business or pleasure travel; receive much better treatment that way. If the vets had been dressed in trousers (no blue jeans) with an open collar shirt and no ball caps, they would have been OK. As conservatives, we often yearn for the good ol' days -- well, dressing better in public is part of that.
Flame retardant applied...
I agree that, in general, nice restaurants are within bounds to have dress codes.
I’d Puck it.
unlike most here I went back and read the article you linked
it is the fancy Puck restaurant...not like folks here are surmising...it is not one of those express pizza and sandwich Puck joints
this one revolves and does not let kids in the bar area either to eat...i know...we just tried because the restaurant was full and the bar was first come but ...no kids at bar tables
more like Spago in LA
lots of restaurants have dress codes...one could argue they should relax them for vets...or not
btw...if this was last weekend Dallas was packed to the gills...2 college games, 1 pro, 1 baseball, Carrie Underwood and something else...estimated 800,000 tourists there
Dude, really?
In these economic times?
If I owned a high-end resturant, I would suspend dress codes
and if someone came in with money to spend, I would gladly accept it.
Now, being a vet myself, I would bend over backwards to make
sure all vets were treated with the upmost respect.
NO MATTER HOW THEY WERE DRESSED!!!
That is disrespectful.
They were dressed like slobs. T-shirts and shorts are unsuitable attire for a high-end restaurant, and these vets all were raised in an age when these things were understood. Now they (and the paper) are trying to make this about their war service and not about the rudeness of showing up in what-the-hell-look-at-me attire and expecting to be served. America isn't (yet) a military state where membership in a privileged class confers the right to be rude and expect special treatment.
WE KNOW!!!
Well if you go to a nice restaurant you should not be wearing ball caps. A gerntleman is supposed to take his hat off in a restaurant.
How old are you? Do you understand the circumstances? My father was a WWII vet, and though fortunately never a POW... It is those guys who saved us... So, I am not so worried about the Miss Manners niceties.
Ah...you were down at the Cotton Bowl? Hope you enjoyed the trip and the....um....sites :)
You are right, there is less respect for the elderly. I was raised to respect the elderly.
The prisoner of war camp for The Great Escape was a British camp. There were no Americans.
Ahem, they made a small sacrifice for you and I at Pearl Harbor, Normandy, Bataan, Peleliu, Iwo jima, the Coral Sea. Maybe we can find it in our great big hearts somewhere to let these greatest of all American heros have what is perhaps a last horah for some of them at a nice restaurant. I know it's hard to see these toothless, tieless, 92 year old geezers sitting right next to our clean, expensive table, but if we really struggle we could find a place in our hearts to accomodate the unfathomable sacrifices they made for us while they still breathe.
You’ll get no flames from me—I respect the vets for their service, but if it was a fancy restaurant, they should have dressed appropriately.
Yes. You'd allow people in with tank tops and shorts, because people who want to spend $30 on a fine filet and $50 on a bottle of wine for a special evening with someone want to look at someone's back hair at the next table.
Stick to running a fastfood franchise.
He bounced off the roof of a barn and landed in a pig pen after his plane was shot down over Schweinfurt, Germany, in 1943. He lost 30 pounds during two years as a POW at Stalag Luft III, the camp depicted in the movie The Great Escape. He’s dug through trash for food, eaten barley soup with his hands and slept in ankle-deep cow manure.
So Coberly couldn’t help but laugh this week when a hostess at Wolfgang Puck’s Five Sixty restaurant told him and five other war veterans they didn’t look good enough to visit the high-end downtown Dallas eatery...
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The restaurant’s general manager, Marcus Cascio, sent the group two bottles of Scotch, a written apology and an invitation to return to the restaurant.
Even Dallas Mayor Tom Leppert got into the action.
He sent each man a letter that concluded, “Again, welcome to Dallas. I’m sure you will enjoy our Southern hospitality.”
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/travel/news/7248442.html
Interesting, short article (link above).
Fortunately it all ended well, however I hope these heroes were able to return to the restaurant per the manager's invitation to enjoy a great meal and the view there.
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