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To: blasater1960
Blaming Christians for the Holocaust is beyond ignorant. And yes, I realize that I'm saying that to a Jew. Leaving aside Hitler's open hostility to every Christian doctrine, there's this...though this is not an exact quote, it is one that Albert Einstein said reflected his feelings, though his original statement was "more moderate":
Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks... Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.

BTW, did you know Muslim extremists now kill more people each year than were killed in the entire Inquisition?

Christian countries in general and America in particular are the only countries where Jews have ever been able to live in peace, and Jews once again have a nation of their own because Christian nations made it happen. Take your bilge elsewhere.

69 posted on 10/15/2010 1:23:26 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback; TalBlack
Blaming Christians for the Holocaust is beyond ignorant.

Where do you get that? I never blamed Christians, I said, that during the holocaust, a Jew wouldnt feel safe coming across that same group of men. Why? because it was not uncommon for Christian Germans to turn in their Jewish neighbors to the Nazis.

The Einstein quote is from a 1940 Time magazine article. It is not a direct quote from Einstein. In 1947 he distanced himself from that quote by saying he did have some praises of the Church in the early rise of Hitler, much earlier than 1940, but the quote greatly overstated his earlier statement. But Einstein left Germany in 1933 due to Hitlers rise, so he wasnt there for the persecutions. So honestly...what does he know?

BTW, did you know Muslim extremists now kill more people each year than were killed in the entire Inquisition?

So what...tell that to the Jews who were burned alive, terrorized and had to flee for their lives. Are you trying to minimize the evil of the inquisition?

Christian countries in general and America in particular are the only countries where Jews have ever been able to live in peace, and Jews once again have a nation of their own because Christian nations made it happen.

G-d made it happen, in spite of the Christian nations. In the 1920 San Remo conference, Israel was granted their historic homeland from the sea to the Jordan river, the League of Nations ratified it but the Christian nations then reneged on the deal, even though it is technically still binding to this day. It took the horrors of the holocaust for the Christian nations to relent and agree to a Jewish homeland. Is that your idea of Christian support? Or the boycotting of arms that the US did to Israel?

No, you are whitewashing history. The church has a lot of Jewish blood on its hands as well as a long history of abuse. Do you deny the Christian atrocities? Your Jesus would not agree with you. Here is a Christian article for you. History

112 posted on 10/15/2010 7:39:15 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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