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Arson blamed for fire that destroyed Mormon church in Mukilteo Washington
The Herald ^ | October 16, 2010 | Gale Fiege

Posted on 10/16/2010 7:37:24 PM PDT by Ripliancum

MUKILTEO — Arson is the cause of an early morning fire that destroyed a church building next door to Kamiak High School, fire and police officials said. No one was injured in the blaze.

The Snohomish County Fire Marshal’s office, the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and Mukilteo Fire and Police departments concluded Saturday afternoon that the fire was started outside near the back entry of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints building at the corner of Harbour Pointe Boulevard and Chennault Beach Drive.

The two-alarm fire, first reported shortly before 3 a.m. Saturday, has left two Mormon congregations without a place to worship.

Firefighters at the nearby Mukilteo Fire Department responded within minutes, said Assistant Fire Chief Brian McMahan.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arson; churcharson; churchburning; churchburnings; fire; inman; lds; mormon; mukilteo; washington
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To: Ripliancum

My guess is that some high school kids were hiding behind the church, smoking cigarettes, and someone hastily discarded a lit butt which started a fire.


21 posted on 10/17/2010 8:26:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Well, fortunately, we don’t have to “guess”. Evidence points to deliberate arson, and they came to that conclusion very quickly. Investigators aren’t saying what that evidence is, as they seek out those responsible.


22 posted on 10/17/2010 8:41:48 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest." Prov.29:9)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Your question says a lot!


23 posted on 10/17/2010 10:10:02 AM PDT by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: panaxanax

Post #6 bump.

“No one was injured in the blaze.” Thank God!


24 posted on 10/17/2010 11:38:32 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: caseinpoint

Post #12 is right on. I believe that church members should start packing (guns).


25 posted on 10/17/2010 11:42:02 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: panaxanax; Ripliancum; Saundra Duffy; Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson
They could start their investigation right here at FR, based on some of the downright hateful posts here about Mormons.

#1: I seemed to recall a Mormon being zotted a few months ago for suggesting that FREEPERS might be the place to start an investigation re: the murder of a Mormon bishop in Visalia. Is there a zot machine that needs to be warmed up?

#2: Let me be unequivocable: I have Mormon relatives whom I dearly love who enjoy and should enjoy the same religious freedom to worship that I enjoy. And I'm a descendant of a Mormon who came from a country where there was a bit less religious freedom in favor of gaining more.

Hence, I condemn the arsonist as one devoted to destruction and chaos.

#3: Now. If contemporary Mormons condemned
-- or were to condemn
-- Mayor Joseph Smith who ordered
-- and his minions who carried out the order
-- the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor's property
-- to the near same degree and with the same rough outrage
-- as they express regarding this act...
...then hey, we not only might get somewhere...
...but there wouldn't likely be a Mormon church.
Why not? Because the Mormon exodus would all be internal. They would all recognize Joseph Smith for the destructive ruthless, lawless, ruffian criminal pied piper that he was. I mean what? Just because Smith's mobocrats carried out their act "consisting of some 200 men, armed and equipped, with Muskets, Swords, Pistols, Bowie Knives, Sledge-Hammers" instead of an arsonist's tools, that it somehow establishes it as on another plane of consideration?

Source and paragraph context of this quote: From the June 12, 1844 Warsaw Messenger: Mr. Sharp: -- I hasten to inform you of the UNPARALLELED OUTRAGE, perpetrated upon our rights and interests, by the ruthless, lawless, ruffian band of MORMON MOBOCRATS, at the dictum that of that UNPRINCIPLED wretch Joe Smith. We were privately informed that the CITY COUNCIL, which had been in extra session, for two days past; had enacted an ordinance in relation to libels, providing that anything that had been published, or anything that might be published tending to disparage the character of the officers of the city should be regarded as LAWLESS. They also declared the "Nauvoo Expositor," a "nuisance," and directed the police of the city to proceed immediately to the office of the Expositor and DESTROY THE PRESS and also the MATERIALS, by THROWING them into the STREET!!!! If any resistance were made, the officers were directed to demolish the building and property, of all who were concerned in publishing said paper; and also take all into custody, who might refuse to obey the authorities of the City. Accordingly, a company consisting of some 200 men, armed and equipped, with Muskets, Swords, Pistols, Bowie Knives, Sledge-Hammers, &c, assisted by a crowd of several hundred minions, who volunteered their services on the occasion, marching to the building, and breaking open the doors with a Sledge Hammer, commenced the work of destruction and desperation. They tumbled the press and materials into the street, and set fire to them, and demolished the machinery with sledge hammer, and injured the building very materially. We made no resistance; but looked on and felt revenge, but leave it for the public to avenge this climax of insult and injury. See: Unparalleled Outrage at Nauvoo

26 posted on 10/17/2010 12:51:35 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

What does #3 have to do with the topic of this thread? Why not just post it in a separate anti-Mormon thread?


27 posted on 10/17/2010 12:56:03 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Saundra Duffy; panaxanax; Ripliancum

If that’s the way you idiots think of our fellow FReepers then you can all take a freaking hike! Get the hell off of FR and stay off!!


28 posted on 10/17/2010 12:58:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Just vote them OUT!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; panaxanax; Ripliancum; Jim Robinson

Jim’s right. That’s a pretty #’d up suggestion panamax, Saundra Duffy.


29 posted on 10/17/2010 1:01:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: magritte

You’re a brave but foolish person to be defending Mormons.


30 posted on 10/17/2010 1:03:34 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: Ripliancum

Well, what’dya know - a church fire in Ohio and another in Washington. I see a pattern starting to develop...


31 posted on 10/17/2010 1:06:16 PM PDT by meyer (Tax the productive to carry the freeloaders - What is it with democrats and slavery?)
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To: behzinlea

Not defending Mormons....I just hate it when people throw the anti-Mormon crap like that into the News/Activism forum...save that baloney for the Religion Forum...magritte


32 posted on 10/17/2010 1:06:30 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Ripliancum
I believe it falls under the “F” in ATF

I believe that most of their activity falls under "F".

33 posted on 10/17/2010 1:08:36 PM PDT by meyer (Tax the productive to carry the freeloaders - What is it with democrats and slavery?)
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To: magritte; behzinlea
What? When the Nauvoo Expositor was destroyed, that only belonged on "the Religion page?" And was the source I cited from "the Religion page" of the Warsaw Messenger, 1844? Or from the front news page?

Words cannot describe how pathetic of an argument that is -- one coming from what must be a hermetically sealed secular/sacred compartmentalized mind.

34 posted on 10/17/2010 1:13:17 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: magritte

What? If a few Colorado Buffalo football players somebody may have announced for once upon a time get embroiled in a criminal scandal, it only belongs on the sports page?


35 posted on 10/17/2010 1:20:30 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Who gives a rat’s ass about the Nauvoo Expositor? Is that relevant to why this church was burned? Of course not. That’s the problem with religious bigots...they can’t see through anything but their twisted pitiful lens...pathetic...magritte


36 posted on 10/17/2010 1:23:36 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Colofornian

LOL...you aren’t serious, are you? Get a grip.


37 posted on 10/17/2010 1:24:42 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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If they haven't done so in the past, Mormons need to prepare to defend themselves and to brace for more violent attacks. Ever since Proposition 8 was passed, there's been a faint odor of an impending anti-Mormon "Kristallnacht" in the air. Liberals are just waiting to pounce. Liberals very likely see Mormons as a relatively safe group to attack.

I told my good friend, who is a Mormon, this. He just smiled and said God would take care of him and his family. Now, I like and respect him, but I think he's a fool on this particular point.

38 posted on 10/17/2010 1:39:48 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: Ripliancum
Disgusting action, I hope the catch the “individual” regardless of motives and throw the book at him.

I may disagree with Mormonism as much as I do anything but defend to the death their right to practice and do so safely. Safe the fight for the arena of ideas.

39 posted on 10/17/2010 2:59:45 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: panaxanax

Nice...

(rolls eyes...)


40 posted on 10/17/2010 3:00:52 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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